Edit: WE DON'T TALK ABOUT NUMBER 11.
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The fraction of teenage/underage girls on that list is too damn high (hell, Louise is 9)
Controversial opinion: If killing npcs in video games is fine and shouldn't land you in prison for murder, because they are fictional and not real people, then porn of "underage" fictional characters is also fine and shouldn't be illegal.
Finding something disgusting is not a proper reason to make something illegal. The only relevant aspect is whether it causes harm to others or not.
I'm not talking about legal judgement (I practically never do) and I'm not even talking bout legit PDF files.
It's just disgusting that rule 34 of literal children scores this high.
You can say "pedophiles".
But saying PDF files is funny
Don't discrace the good name of my friend, Portable Document Format
Adobe did that a long time ago.
Can we start calling them Adobe Lovers?
Legality and morality don't necessarily align. I would find it very immoral, but as far as I know, not illegal, to get off to drawings of children. Additionally, what's the difference between a photo of a child and a realistic drawing of a "fictional character" that looks like said child? I think getting off to children is wrong, regardless of criminality. If that's something someone desires, they should seek help, not indulge in fantasy.
They are not drawings of children, they are drawings of fictional characters that look like children. That is an important distinction here I think. Obviously getting off to a drawing of a real child is wrong.
That's my whole point, it makes all the difference. One is an actual human person that feels emotions and is harmed by the creation and spread of csam, while the other literally doesn't exist.
That's why I think it is not actually immoral. (I believe morality and legality should align anyways) Then again that's why we watch fictional shows in the first place
I think your disgust might come from anthropomorphising the fictional character and feeling empathy towards it?
(Of course you are entitled to your feelings)
I have always felt the "actually she's 1000 years old and just looks like a child" argument is both ridiculous and disingenuous. They're interested because she looks like a child, not because of her character supposed age. Again, but rephrased, what's the difference if someone makes a character that looks like a real child but is fictional and much older in their characterization? At what point is it morally acceptable? Do you need to use an ambiguous art style? Do you need to include inhuman character traits? I simply cannot take the argument seriously, because clearly the character looking like a child is important. What difference does the story you tell yourself about their age make? Why not just pretend real CSAM is just young looking aliens that are a million years old? If it looks like a child, I believe it's unequivocally immoral, and there is no line you can draw that would convince me that a childlike drawing that falls on the "OK" side of the line isn't immoral.
At least based on the actual psychology research on the topic, access to fictional material for masturbation purposes actually has shown to be the most effective method to prevent abusive urges and relapse.
Tho considering how hard it is to find funding and people willing to under go therapy it's a struggle to find reliable data.
There was one of the leading experts in the topic that did an ask me anything a few years back.
Reddit ended up banning her and nuking the thread due to the topic. But it had a lot of research shared in it that now is locked up behind pay walls and basically buried deep.
I would need to see multiple, peer reviewed sources. It's a very sensitive topic, but regardless, I don't believe that that material should be floating around. Access it through a psychiatrist, or therapist.
I haven't made that argument
It's the same argument, that the character only looks like a child, but isn't. I chose a hyperbolic example for emphasis, but it's the same argument. It looks like a child. That's the point.
In the UK it doesn't matter if its a photo of a real person or not, porn that depicts a child is illegal.
Tbh I think with the use of AI at this point this might be a pretty good law to have. "It was AI generated" is not a defence. Realistically if you are doing it for yourself no one will find out so there is some kind of argument as to it being harmless, but when you start doing other things with those images such as using them for blackmail the police should be able to use that as sufficient evidence to charge you.
That's just the UK though. They have their own issues
We certainly have issues, but intolerance of paedophilia isn't one of them. I'm happy we see it that way.
That's the thing. Y'all do tolerate it. There's article after article about letting them get away with just a slap on the wrist
Yeah, definitely far from perfect
...or even good, a lot of the time
I still find it fucked up that so many people are aroused by sexualising children, even though they are fictional.
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Out of 11 we have:
Maggie Simpson Lisa Simpson Louise Belcher
And maybe Hayley Smith and Meg Griffin? Or are they 18?
Anyways, that’s a really high proportion, like a thirdish.
You almost gave me a heart attack. It's Marge. (that said, I trust internet perverts enough to go for adult Maggie)
Edit: oh... it's the blurred out one
Hayley is like 19/20. Meg is in high school
Meg is 18yo btw
There's this joke once where Quagmire asks Meg if she's 18 yet. She says nope and he walks away.
lmao, there is an entire episode about meg 18th birthday and quagmire hunting her to bang her.
Yeah, I stopped watching Family Guy like 15 years ago. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There’s an episode in season 10 where Meg turns 18, and Quagmire ends up taking her to his remote sex cabin. Peter and Lois end up breaking in and threatening Quagmire to stay away from her.
Learning about family guy lore wasn't on my bingo card today.
So... when do the rule 34s canonically take place? /j
No, because Chris is the older brother and still goes to high school.
how are you sure about that
Hayley is in college. Afaik Meg is underage though.
Hayley would get it tho.
Millenial Hippie chick with daddy issues? Sign me up.
Shitty taste in men too
If it makes you feel any better, from a quick scan through some of the images the vast majority of them at least seem depict the characters as older and grown up.