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There's no stopping this now that the box is open, even the most draconian legislation wouldn't stop it and anything short of every single country agreeing all at the same time to execute anyone involved will just end up failing.
It's too useful to too many people, even in its current shitty form.
I agree that a lot of the cat is already out of the bag with AI -- however, I think we can prevent new large scale training runs with a treaty/ban (see nuclear treaties, bio weapon treaties, Montreal protocol). Also, we can regulate issues like algorithmic bias, deep fakes, and require transparency/safety testing for new models at the very least.
Why would China or Russia agree to an anti-ai treaty? Those technologies benefit their objectives quite heavily.
Even if they said they would, unlike military assets like missiles, hiding a datacenter's use case is trivial.
It's not like Russia(or the US) has been following existing treaty rules scrupulously even with the current stuff.
And no, you can't regulate bias. Deep fakes... Some of it, but definitely not all of it. Commercial stuff from Microsoft or meta may be able to he regulated, but if there's any benefit to not doing so customers will just purchase services from outside the country to accomplish that.
Unclear whether AI benefits other regime's objectives - ai could very likely destabilize any regime (the CCP actually regulates AI more than the USA already). Luckily chip manufacturing is very centralized, making it easy to control, and AI training uses lots of electricity and has a thermal signature. You can also use economic sanctions as leverage.
Nobody said it had to be publicly available to be developed or used. Governments can push this along just fine.
Economic sanctions haven't worked against Russia so far, why would they work against China or India or whoever else wants to do it.