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Hey, just wanted to plug an grassroots advocacy nonprofit, PauseAI, that's lobbying to pause AI development and/or increase regulations on AI due to concerns around the environment, jobs, and safety. They recruit volunteers to spread awareness, contact congress, etc -- it's just one more way you can fight back against the AI industrial complex!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry for being negative, and I don't want to drag it down since I think it's a commendable effort... But I don't think this will fly. At all.

Everyone in power wants more AI. It's the biggest bubble as of now. Companies are valued billions and billions based on the prospect of AI doing things in the future. It's getting them rich. Countries all around the globe are committed to it. Trump/Musk use it to make up the tariffs, rewrite the legacy code, they use it to control foreigners. He wants to invest a huge pile if money into project Stargate. The Chinese have AI on their agenda. It's been an integral part of the CCP's plan for more than a decade now(?). I hear Frau von der Leyen advertise massively for AI investment in the EU... So who is left to listen to this?

I think the war is mostly over and we can't turn back and start questioning the entire thing any more. I believe what we need to do is shift focus immediately and think about what we can do which might have some impact. We need regulation. There needs to be some ethics mandated. It needs to be more transparent, maybe even open-source so it's not just a plaything for rich companies and governments to oppress people. Someone needs to pay for the effects it has on society and economy. And we need to make sure it doesn't destroy the entire internet, society and turn everyone into an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Well a majority of Americans support more regulation of AI, and support a ban on AI smarter than humans. Politicians do need voters to get reelected in the US.

There's also variety of laws that can be passed, some that don't directly threaten as much of AI progress, which the moneyed interests might be less hostile to, such as liability for AI companies, evaluations of social/environmental impact of ai, pauses on certain kinds of development, etc. It doesn't have to be all or nothing, and there's wide support among constituents for doing something.

On the question of what different countries will do, China and the EU already have more AI regulation in place than the United States, imposed unilaterally. With an international treaty to regulate ai, by the definition of a treaty all parties are bound by it so no party gets to advance ahead of the others.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I'm always a bit wary with democracy and capitalism. Sometimes it's ill-equipped to handle specifically things like this. And judging by the current situation in the US... Maybe it's not the voters who get what they want or need...

I'm not so sure. The EU often tries to regulate. The US not so much. And the Chinese do their own thing. I believe these endeavors are controlled and financed by the government. Depends on what they like, and that's currently invest a lot of money into AI startups, datacenters, chip design and manufacturing and train experts and scientists... So it looks to me as if everyone except the EU wants to push AI. And even the EU said they want to compete.

I think we need a bit more regulation than even the EU does. They had some very good ideas. And I'd like some more transparency, mandatory watermarking to combat all the AI slop and a few things added to how copyright works.