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Landlords aren't being paid. Tenants are feeling squeezed. And the system that's supposed to help is broken (www.cbc.ca)
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The long delays in resolving landlord-tenant disputes are worst in Ontario but other provinces are experiencing it as well. Experts say those delays will have an impact on the already-stressed rental market.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To quote a brilliant man, Tim Gurner:

They have been paid a lot, to do not that much, and we need to see that change. We need to see insolvency rise. Landlords need to lose 40-50%, in my view. We need to see pain in the owner class. We need to remind people that we produce the value so that they can freeload, not the other way around.

I mean, there has been a systemic change where landlords feel that the tenants are extremely lucky to have them, as opposed to the other way around. So it's a dynamic that has to change. We've got to kill that attitude, and that has to come through hurting the owner class, which is what the whole -- you know, the world -- people are trying to do.

And we're seeing it. I think every capitalist now is seeing it. I mean there is definitely massive discontent going on. People may not be talking about it, but people are definitely agitating and we're starting to see more fear in the owner class. And that has to continue, because that will cascade across the oligarchy.

[–] ImplyingImplications 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

where landlords feel that the tenants are extremely lucky to have them

This pisses me off so much! I've even seen it posted on Lemmy and I wouldn't be surprised if a few show up here with their "without me these people would be on the street!" rhetoric. Without landlords there would be lower competition, lower demand, and lower prices. I think these people forget there was a point in time that houses were less expensive than cars and people paid them off in a few years. This was before "income property" was a concept.

[–] Rodeo -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We've got to kill that attitude, and that has to come through hurting the owner class, which is what the whole -- you know, the world -- people are trying to do.

The stumble at the end of that sentence comes off so much like he was about to say "that's our plan", but realized at the least second he can't give away that there is actually a group of people planning that.

So who was he talking about? The WEF? IMF?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe. But I don't particularly care even if they are planning a global takeover or whatever. I just don't buy the idea of an organized shadowy cabal being able to comprehensively manipulate the world to their will.

Now, there are definitely people with ridiculously outsized influence compared to other people, and they definitely do deliberately try to achieve a specific outcome... and the world does eventually tend to organize itself to the benefit of those people... but it's more a consequence of aligned incentives and feedback loops that make it the most likely outcome given the initial conditions, rather than an open-ended question where they held the sole deciding vote.

And to me... That's actually scarier. The idea that even if we somehow wound up with benevolent people in places of power (which is difficult, because those places of power tend not to attract benevolent people), they would still be paddling against a merciless current of systemic mechanisms that are eager to undo any progress they might make.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just don't buy the idea of an organized shadowy cabal being able to comprehensively manipulate the world to their will.

Nor do I. Mostly because of competition with the semi-organized complete overt cabal comprehensively manipulating the world to their will.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. And that's actually what gets me so frustrated with the "Well, it's hopeless to participate, cuz Congress will just do whatever they wanna do!" crowd.

Like, NO! Do you see how much "progress" conservatives have been able to make? They have dismantled parts of American law that have been considered untouchable for decades.

And these are people who hate democracy! Somehow, that side -- the anti-democracy side -- actually believes in the power of organizing, persuading people to band together, and participating in governance... MORE than the side that claims to believe democracy is the only way forward for a just society!