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Phil Tank: Trudeau may now regret his broken electoral reform promise (thestarphoenix.com)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/canada
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The plummeting poll numbers for Justin Trudeau and the federal Liberals might not seem as dire if Canada had adopted a new voting system.

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[–] psvrh 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's the thing: he could still pass it.

The NDP would support it, as would the Bloc and Greens. Hell, the PPC would, too. He could just ram it through. Easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy. He has the time left in his mandate.

The problem that the the Liberal Party doesn't want it because it would mean no more Liberal majorities. No Conservative ones, either.

If you go back through electoral history, you have to go back to 1984 to find a party that won a majority. Before that, you have to go back to 1958. It's a little more common before that, but still the exception.

Do we really think the Big Red or Big Blue machines will abandon the system that gives them majority rule without a majority vote share? Fuck, no they won't. Adolf Hitler himself could be running as CPC leader (or Josef Stalin vs the Cons, take your pick) and at risk of winning and they'd still avoid electoral reform because it would mean they'd be one party among many, and thusly less important to the donor class, than they are now.

[–] corsicanguppy 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem that the the Liberal Party doesn't want it because it would mean no more Liberal majorities. No Conservative ones, either.

Ranked-choice only gives majorities. One of the problems with it is that it kills what gave us almost everything we're happy about as Canadians: minority governments need buy-in at all stages and have to work together with party of similar views, and that's how we got healthcare and peacekeeping and now dental care.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

uhh.. no? We would keep the parliamentary system that we currently have, but the riding level elections would be ranked choice (or some other method) vs FPTP. It would actually lead to more minority and coalition governments as smaller parties would be able to have more representation in parliament.