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So what? Hamas forfeited their position to complain about differing combatants and civilians when they chose to engage as irregular combatants. To that end, everyone who stays in combat areas when told to evacuate should be considered a combatant. But the nature of irregular combatants and warfare is probably just something we should agree to disagree on here.
I absolutely agree that a huge amount of reporting is less than honest. But my main question is then, who do you consider a viable source, if anyone, or what's your strategy for getting information you can trust, if you don't consider any sources to be up to snuff?
Well I mean yeah, but that's not going to happen. Hamas and their friends have a vested interest in making it look like they're just a bunch of victims.
I guess the reason I'm curious is because I find a lot of people (yourself not included) who more or less dismiss every source that backs up Israel's stance/actions as just being zionist propaganda or whatever, so I'm interested in what we (in a general sense) could find that would serve as a sort of common ground of facts, even if we don't agree on the more subjective side of things. Because yeah, there's always going to be people who just carry water for their "side" regardless of the facts, but i feel like a lot of the middle ground is getting pulled to the extremes by the narrative that nothing can be trusted.
Hamas isn't the only group complaining about civilian deaths though, so this is a weird point to bring up that doesn't really add anything to the conversation.
Children are not combatants. Women (generally) are not combatants. Refugees are not combatants.
This is also a double standard, because Israel has been told for decades to leave. Does that make Israeli civilians combatants? No, obviously not.
Civilians should not be killed. Organizations that intentionally kill civilians are terrorists organizations, which includes both Hamas and Israel.