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I feel like the whole world should just have a big giant job internet where there's just.. if something needs to be done you post it on the job internet and somebody who can do it can go do it... if they fail, they don't get accepted for that type of job again until they get trained.. if they're really good at something and they want to keep doing that thing, then maybe a contract can be signed.. if somebody is exploiting the job internet and taking the good jobs over and over and over again maybe there can be some kind of cap on how many times you can accept a certain job without a contract.. I don't know, but I feel like we should be able to get up and go to a job if we want to, but also not have to get up and go to a job.
I have never ever ever wanted to work in my life and the fact that everyone around me expects that I will have to work is infuriating. And it's not like it's laziness, when I enjoy something, I just do it.. it's not work or labor, it's just doing something. But I don't want to be forced to do things on planet Earth .....I didn't ask to be here, I don't agree with the system, I don't agree with money, and I feel like if everybody has free will, we should be able to choose to never work. That should also be a legitimate choice.
As for unions, I can understand how they can be good for achieving things from corporate bosses or whatever.. but I once worked at a place there was a union, and because I wasn't a 40-year-old Islander gossiping with the rest of them and I actually did my job and we were over quota everyday when I was working and I was bei ng too efficient, I ended up being fired by the union because they didn't want me around.. they wanted to be lazy and sit around and gossip instead of do their jobs and be efficient. So that wasn't very fun, I had no recourse.... I couldn't ask to be not fired because nobody was representing me because I was on probationary....... I don't really have a positive opinion on unions anymore because according to the experience,, I will never be able to even join a union because they're going to fire me before my probationary period is up.
I was productive because I like work and I like putting the little wires into the little thingy and make it work good.. I liked every single station they put me on I like the one where I had to test the circuit boards, I like the one where I had to put all the little pieces together and make the stuff float, I like the little wire part, I like the work. And I liked that I could go to a work, do the work, and then leave the work at work and go home at the end of the day.. it was fulfilling... it also paid me more than I had been paid to that point.
I was perfectly happy, and the stupid Union thought that I was not good enough for them so that's great.
I understand that jobs are shitty and that's why I don't work now at all. but I miss that job because it was the most productive I have ever felt. And a union fucking ripped it away from me.
Oh, I've also been a temp worker hired as temporary work.. you know what they do to Temporary workers when the job is done? They fire them.. that shit fucking sucks too, by the way. I'd rather see your shitty manager get an office chair then hire me for a couple months and then fire me because I am temporary labor. Being a temporary laborer sucks. And even though we're lightning workloads and all that, we still get treated like shit by the actual long-term workers too so there's also that.
So I guess my perspective is, fuck all work. fuck work entirely. Fuck managers fuck presidents fuck CEOs fuck unions fuck laborers fuck everything that has to do with work at all lol it's all a damn waste of time