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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (29 children)

That's dumb. I understand restrictions on uncooked meats, but what harm could a cooked chicken breast do? This is what happens when officials blindly enforce rules without understanding the purpose of the rule in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a genuine biosecurity risk in Australia. Australia (and NZ) are very susceptible to pathogens from outside so this kind of thing is taken very seriously in both countries.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s a genuine biosecurity risk in Australia.

A cooked chicken sandwich? And letting in people who've eaten the sandwiches isn't a biosecurity risk? Hmm. I'm questioning the genuineness of the concern.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should be thankful it's cooked.

If it's undercooked? Believe it or not, straight to jail.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

“Chicken meat poses a significant biosecurity risk to Australia, particularly the risk of highly pathogenic notifiable avian influenza (HPNAI) virus which can cause severe disease and mortality across Australia’s poultry industry, and may also affect wild bird populations.”

We do have a reputation for taking these things very seriously, as we should. We were even going to kill Johnny Depp's dogs at one point but settled for the "hostage video". Despite that, it does seem excessive in this case and should have been overturned on appeal at the very least.

Thankfully someone stepped up and ended up paying the fine on their behalf.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We were even going to kill Johnny Depp’s dogs at one point but settled for the “hostage video”.

Let me guess, it's because he was rich and famous.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it was more about sending a message. In a way yes because he is famous, but in the way that they wanted to leverage that as a deterrence. It wasn't about "letting him off the hook". It was about using him as a platform to say to the world "we do not fuck around when it comes to this". If you've seen the hostage video you know what I mean 🤣

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have not seen this hostage video.

Is it easy to find?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Here's a short news story about it with some additional context https://youtu.be/4a7ExWd698w

Here's the original clip https://youtu.be/Q2BDtdkyxFk

If you search Johnny Depp hostage video you will find it. We don't talk about she who must not be named.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you!

I can see how this might be a win-win for both parties. Yeah, JDepp gets off cause of his fame. But the AU government also gets to use that fame to send a message to everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

They were never really going to kill the dogs. The full context was along the lines of "well you can do the right thing, or we will have no choice but to..". I'm not aware of any cases where they've actually euthanised a pet, famous or no. It's an absolute last resort as they would rather just quarantine them. But yeah, pretty funny and a win for the government.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

In Australia under a rightwing government? No, they wouldn’t have given a shit about that.

It was because he broke biosecurity laws. Something we take seriously here after witnessing how rabbits, foxes, and canetoads fucked up the environment.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Granny shoulda watched that show, "border security: Australia"

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To make it worse, we have our own in New Zealand, which is the (worldwide) original of that format. The Aussie series is a spin-off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Patrol_(New_Zealand_TV_series)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Funny thing is, NZ is actually stricter on this issue than Australia.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (18 children)

That’s a chicken burger in the picture, love when there’s an article about aus/nz but using American nomenclature

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The link didn't load for me, but this link has an interesting bit at the end-

"Meat has strict import conditions which can change quickly based on disease outbreaks," the spokesperson said, adding that passengers can be fined up to 6,260 Australian dollars, or around $4,100, for bringing unauthorized food items into the country.

It's not the first time a passenger has been fined for bringing an undeclared item through an Australian airport. In August, a passenger was fined $1,200 for walking with a rose at an airport in Australia. And in August last year, a passenger was fined $1,870 for packing McMuffin sandwiches on a flight from Bali to Australia.

https://www.businessinsider.com/australia-airport-food-fine-passenger-sandwich-passenger-pension-2023-11

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apparently someone who doesn't want Australia to fine them. The real question is why Australia doesn't let people know this before they enter the country when the TSA easily lets people know about all the things they can't bring on a plane with signs before they even go through a security checkpoint.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We do. There's announcements on the flight and there's signs everywhere.

The department spokeswoman pointed to biosecurity announcements on flights which told travellers what their declaration obligations were, as well as signage about it around arrivals areas in Australian airports.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ok, so basically this woman didn't pay attention to anything and got fined for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was probably a lack of attention combined with a genuine mistake. She claims she slept through the flight. Lots of people are also unaware how strictly we deal with it and think they'll be fine instead of fined. We have an entire TV show about it.

I don't want to be too harsh on her as it's relatively minor and the fine amounted to 10% of their combined remaining life savings. It was her mistake.

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[–] evranch 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some of these rules are just silly and arbitrary. Once I was driving down to the USA from Canada and I had a banana sitting on the dash for a snack.

The customs agent angrily tells me "You can't bring a banana into America". So I chomped down the banana, and offered the peel for disposal.

"I don't want the peel, you can keep the peel"

I looked confused and asked how the peel was any different from the whole banana, and he's just like "move along, next vehicle"

I think he was just hungry and wanted to swipe my banana

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

My father visited the USSR in the late 80s. When he left, he was required by law to return all of the Soviet money he had exchanged. He offered all of his rubles and then he emptied his pockets and he had a handful of kopeks in them and put them on the desk. The customs guy looked down at them and said, "you keep kopek." And that's how I got a few Soviet kopeks as a kid to add to my coin collection.

[–] WashedOver 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At the US Canada border crossing, if you don't declare a pack of gum or a candy bar for a inspection it can be used as an "issue"

I was warned of this a few years ago as they asked me if I wanted to declare anything before they started their random vehicle inspection.

One time I was driving my Gf's car and at some point a orange had rolled under her seat and had turned into a dried out black ball.

They let me off with a stiff warning that I was lucky since I didn't declare and they could tell it was an accident. They have to be concerned about the orange crops (in Florida I guess?) I was told. I was crossing in Washington State though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crossing in Washington the guard got angry at us because one of us was from DC, one from Vegas, and one from Seattle. He was offended that we came from different places.

[–] WashedOver 5 points 1 year ago

It sucks how people are left up to the whim of the guards working. If they are having a bad day, odds are you will too.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Don't risk it for a Bisquit"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bisquick has ruined your spelling.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

"Flightless" for a reason, grandma.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same thing happened to me with a Tim Hortons bagel. Border guards with small dicks having a power trip. The best part? The question on the computer was "are you importing any xyz...". I was not importing it, I was eating it at the airport. Still had my Nexus taken.

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