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[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Now that student borrowers aren't getting a "free ride", I want PPP loan recipients to be required to pay back the full amount, plus say, 9% interest, retroactively. Why should my tax dollars pay for your free business loan?

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[–] CrazyDuck@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (28 children)

I simply cannot grasp how a judicial system that's entirely based on standing, suddenly decides that 6 random states that have 0 stake in this whole FEDERAL student loan thing have standing to sue over this forgiveness plan

[–] axolittl@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

It's corruption. This isn't a fluke, it's that the "justice" system revolves around what's best for the already powerful elites. It happened because the powerful wanted it to happen, the court just exists to provide the theater to control and placate the masses.

[–] afraid_of_zombies2@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

What is also interesting to me is the Supreme Court has rejected pretty much all forms of standing for establishment clause violations.

You could be a religious Muslim rightfully upset that your local government is making public statements about Jesus being lord and you would have no standing since they wiped out offended observer standing.

[–] cakeistheanswer@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Activist judge gets thrown around a lot, but if the shoe fits....

[–] 1chemistdown@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

The only reason activist judge gets thrown around a lot is because the fascists have been screaming it for several decades while they stack the courts with activist judges. There screams have also caused the other side to fill courts with moderates so they’re not seen as stacking the courts.

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[–] LordofCandy@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am really getting tired of many of these cases where they are based on theoretical harm. It’s like my mother-in-law arguing about 5 things that haven’t happened yet. Possible. Probable. Reality.

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[–] nortorc@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

Student loan forgiveness doesn't go far enough. We need to overhaul the higher education system to rein in the cost of tuition. I mean, regardless of where you stand on student loan forgiveness, can we at least all agree that a bachelor's degree costing anywhere near six figures is absurd?

[–] Robocopsicle@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (10 children)

This quote from Pence is so unbelievably infuriating.

Joe Biden’s massive trillion-dollar student loan bailout subsidizes the education of elites on the backs of hardworking Americans

Good to know all of the millennial and gen z college graduates earning less than $125,000 per year and struggling in an awful economy are "elites" and not "hardworking Americans."

Since I'm now apparently an elite, do I get a membership card in the mail?

[–] afraid_of_zombies2@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Vote vote vote.

[–] Vynlovanth@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Just another way the GOP is gaslighting the American public. American public distrusts the “elite” which the GOP represent or are part of themselves so they attempt to change what “elite” actually is. All of the lower and middle class people fight each other over a few thousand dollars while millionaires and billionaires siphon millions to billions from them through government handouts or record profits/“inflation”.

[–] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago

Hardworking Americans are rich people. It's a code. Poor people aren't hard working because they are poor. If they were, they would be rich. All of the mental gymnastics is just that, and it is ridiculous.

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it's called a diploma

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[–] iRyu@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Wouldn't it just be so cool to live in a society where people cared about their neighbors?

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[–] HulkSmashBurgers@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Eehh fuck the conseritives on the supreme court.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

SCOTUS is why we can't have nice things. Well, them and congress. And often the executive branch.

Basically we can't have nice things.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

99% of the time it's conservatives.

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[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Fuck my life, the one peice of hope I had for a lifeline out of poverty

[–] TempleSquare@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

You join like six people I personally know, either is a close friend or family member.

For some reason this one feels so deeply personal, that I feel motivated to vote like hell. I'm so over being held hostage by maniac Boomers who are losing their minds. We are the bigger generation now. Let's go kick their asses!

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[–] HipHoboHarold@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (7 children)

5 rich people sign a paper saying it's cool if they die in a shitty submarine, they do, and we spent millions trying to find them.

But people actually need help and we could improve our society and economy in numerous ways, and we can't do that.

I hate this place so God damn much.

[–] nortorc@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

5 rich people sign a paper saying it’s cool if they die in a shitty submarine, they do, and we spent millions trying to find them.

Not that I don't agree with the sentiment, but this isn't exclusive to the rich. There have been numerous cave diving incidents where people intentionally do stupid things like ignoring warning signs or breaking past locked gates only to end up in trouble and require a huge rescue operation to get them out and/or recover their bodies.

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[–] Laughbone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess the only way to get your loans forgiven is to become a Supreme Court justice and have your assigned billionaire pay them off.

Or take out a PPP loan.

[–] TheVampireSaga@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] R51@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (42 children)

aw geez

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America: We need to reduce cost of education!

Government: Hey let's put our taxes towards cheaper education!

America: no.

America, can you explain?

[–] KingSnorky@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

American here. I can explain: Republicans.

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[–] Ech@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

You are quoting two different "America"'s there, for one. SCOTUS isn't even an elected body, so I'd hardly consider them "America" outside of their power to dictate our state of affairs.

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[–] degrix@lemmy.hqueue.dev 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well that’s definitely unfortunate. People are already tightening their belts, this can’t be good for the economy.

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