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Lemmy wikipedia page (lemmy.ml)
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Tonight I tried to create a Wikipedia page for Lemmy to try and raise awareness, but it was quickly rejected for the following reason:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

I guess we'll have to start getting journalists to write about it?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 years ago (1 children)

A good first step in "advertising through Wikipedia" might be to add a link to join-lemmy on the "Fediverse" page.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago (1 children)

The fediverse page already mentions lemmy. Someone can try to find a way to get join-lemmy there, but i think it'll be removed

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 years ago

Just added it. I wouldn't think it will be removed, other services in that list with no dedicated Wikipedia page also have links ...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Check out this Peertube article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube Most of the sources are from the company itself

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Most. But there are also others, including "Le Monde" and "Le Figaro", which are probably the most famous french newspapers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

Oh... I did not notice that. Someone will probably write an article on Lemmy in the future, we will have to wait

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 years ago (3 children)

Are these articles useful as reference ?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 years ago

According to Wikipedia, the sources should be reliable and independent. So..

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 years ago (1 children)

They rarely accept social medias like reddit as sources. They will accept twitter as a source if it's relevant,

example: trump toots: "I like vegans". Wikipedia: "trump reported that he likes vegans"[source here]

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

Primary sources are acceptable in limited circumstances, namely as a citation for when someone said something (as opposed to as a statement of fact or notability). There are some reddit AMAs being cited on Wikipedia, e.g. Patrick Stewart's AMA is cited here as saying he likes Yorkshire Tea

For example, the lemmy AMA could be cited as "According to the lemmy developers, the goals of lemmy are X, Y, and Z"

However, primary sources on their own do not establish notability, which is the issue at hand here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, those aren't really independent sources, which is what they're looking for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (1 children)

In a time line based article, like often can be seen on Wikipedia, I would guess that the link to NLnet would be fine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

Above are the references I submitted. They seem to want at least 2 independent sources though.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Yep, quick internet search for "Lemmy" does not show any articles about it. Is there any other way to get coverage besides asking people to write articles?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Causing a lot of fucking drama would be my best bet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 years ago

lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 years ago

Six degrees of separation. At least a handful of us on lemmy are friends with some known tech journalist or have in-laws who are tech journalists

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago

Here is a video on lemmy by Geotechland https://tilvids.com/videos/watch/eed58554-8c27-47fe-b83a-53cbe6f612e6

I am not sure if Wikipedia accepts videos as sources.