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I try to be. Children would be exhausting to parent in the current era. Humanity's future is gloom too.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Humanity’s future is gloom too.

Hasn't been the message for the last 2000 years?

The current era is better to raise children than many other eras where human rights didn't existed. Although it depends on which society too. Many of those worries are very subjective. Having or not having children ultimately is a personal choice* (except when is not e.g. Rape) and neither is wrong. Whichever you chose you will miss the benefits of the other. Both have pros and cons.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

yeah this is what I agree with.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"I try to be." Uhm is there a middle ground here between do or do not? It seems like rather a binary choice lol. Anyway ya, life is shit and this is hell, no way am I bringing more sapient life to this shithole.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

It seems like rather a binary choice lol.

Well there is adoption or babysitting; but I'm trying to stay committed to my decision to be childfree.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I've raised four kids but reared none of my own. Of the four step kids, three girls and one boy, only one of the girls has hatched their own. The other three have zero interest in having kids...unless you count cats.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Never had any interest in having children, and the more I've learned about the state of the world the happier I am with my choices.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I am not, got a 10 month old boy. Its a lot of work, but definitely worth everything. Its incredible how happy he is all the time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I would have liked to, but my husband was a hard no. We're gay and the risks and difficulty involved with adoption are pretty high. He just didn't feel like either of us were up for that, and honestly it may be true. If he's a no and I'm a soft yes, the default goes to no. It looks like my brother is headed the same direction.

Still, I always will feel a little sad that I won't be able to raise a kid or two. In terms of a stable marriage with decent income, we could offer that. I think I could be a decent parent, so it makes me a little sad that I will have little legacy to pass down to the next generation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

I have zero desire to continue my bloodline. I'm okay with adoption, but not particularly interested right now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

I don't have kids nor do I want kids, but I try not to judge others, particularly people who aren't super privileged, for having kids.

Privileged (rich) people who have kids though? They kinda irk me because it's so obvious that they know the world is fucked but they clearly have the money and privilege to keep their kids in a little bubble.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Just had my first want 2 or 3

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

i don't want to have kids because i believe it's unethical for some average joe, or in fact anyone that isn't an expert in child psychology and child development, to subject a human being to potential lifelong trauma because "babies be cute doe". also i think the hype is overblown. society feeds you the lie that you need to have kids to feel fulfilled and happy, but in reality there are many other ways to do that and they don't involve a very high risk of ruining someone's entire life. surround yourself with people you like, create a daily lifestyle that energizes and refreshes you, and spend time on your passions. one or all three of those things could involve children, but for most people they will not.

i think refraining from raising children because "humanity's future is gloom" isn't entirely logical. even absolute climate catastrophe would be better than most of human history because of the technology available to us, and at worst it would be just as bad. humans have been born and lived in the worst possible conditions, they can do it in these ones too. definitely adopt though, creating children is still dumb for other reasons.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I personally don't want to, I'm not good with children

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't have any but want 2 I think. A few years ago I didn't want any but I guess I got older

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

I'd recommend considering adopting, if you don't mind me saying so. More paperwork sure, but way less pain for you or your partner, and they're really usually perfectly good kids. My neice, nephew, and cousin are all adopted, and they're no less a part of the family than anyone else.

It makes a world of difference to a child that already exists, and you spare the unborn the existential crises our world is facing- huge win-win.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Two's a good number. Not sure I'd say it out loud, it's like daring fate to give you triplets.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

as far as i know

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes. I'd rather be the "eccentric uncle QuentinCallaghan" to my siblings' kids than a father to any kid in a world like this. I'm so used to having my own independence and freedom, and I'm a hedonist to some extent. Also having kids would require a relationship, and the Yellowstone volcano erupting is more likely than that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Do cats count? Otherwise, I'm childless.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I am not currently, but wish to be that in my future.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What do you mean by try to be?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I put in effort to avoid having a child; but I feel like I'm tempted to compulsively have one. No one is around me right now and I didn't have sex; so I'm safe rn.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

but I feel like I’m tempted to compulsively have one.

You're unusually perceptive. No joking.

I always wonder at the people who say they want none, then get drunk and fuck without contraceptives. They're unaware of their compulsions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I guess that's what a lot of introspection does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, unless you count my dog.

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