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Gavin Newsom blasts effort to block Trump from California ballot: 'We defeat candidates at the polls' (www.msn.com)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

"we defeat candidates at the polls"

Yeah, but not at the Electoral College, which Republicans have been 10x more effective of weaponizing than Democrats.

This whole mentality of playing by the rules against a team that's openly bragging about cheating when the stakes are this high are exactly why the Democrats have gotten their ass kicked for years against a party that's literally less popular in every way.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

also, removing candidates who attempt to overthrow the government is within the rules.
trump isn't a "candidate"

[+] [email protected] -9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No one has been charged with insurrection. No one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Jury Convicts Four Leaders of the Proud Boys of Seditious Conspiracy Related to U.S. Capitol Breach"
look that up... or better yet, move the goalposts instead

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-1999-title18-section2384&num=0&edition=1999 is not the same as https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2383

No one has been charged with insurrection. No one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

it's the same thing, you twat.
the same fucking thing.
trump called for his crowd to stop the peaceful transfer of power... they did
he lied about the vote being stolen, he defrauded the whole country... he attempted to get georgia state officials to lie.
These other states don't need a conviction to consider the mountains of public evidence available... trump actually said he intends to be a dictator. He actually said those words directly... and multiple times...
im not a biden fan, the democrats and republicans have both been full of shit for as long as i can remember.
but if you would consider voting for someone that declares they plan to be a dictator, well then you're in the wrong country...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Warning for violation of rule #1.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

gotcha, they can troll as much as they want, but if i use a cuss word im violating the ruuuules

it's like reddit all over again

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Legally, it's not the same thing.

Trump has not been found guilty of "insurrection."
No one participating in the events of January 6 was convicted of "insurrection."
Trump was never accused of "insurrection."
No one involved in the January 6 events was accused of "insurrection."
Trump was exonerated in the second impeachment trial, which concerned the events of January 6.
Section 3 of the 14th Amendment does not apply to the President according to settled doctrine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

in·sur·rec·tion /ˌinsəˈrekSH(ə)n/ noun a violent uprising against an authority or government.

Seditious Conspiracy: If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof...

stfu

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Literary definitions are irrelevant in the court of law.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

"shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. " -14th amendment

notice how it doesn't say "convicted of"
... furthermore, the legal definition of "insurrection and rebellion" and "seditious conspiracy" have an almost complete overlap.

im sorry you have failed to grasp basic logic, but you know what? there's a lot of youtube videos on logic... you should check them out! it's a great opportunity.

i recommend you dig into symbolic logic... pretty abstract but i think it helps intuitively

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

no one has been charged with insurrection YET.

Give it a few years, the justice system moves slowly but forgets very little.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Notice it's only ever "let the people decide" when they think it'll benefit them. When the people decided in multiple states to enshrine abortion rights into law, suddenly they start changing rules and talking about national bans.

Besides, I thought the elections were rigged? Good luck on voter turnout this time around.