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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Human beings are phenomenally good at voting against their own interests.

I blame an education system that doesn’t develop critical thinking skills.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

By design, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Driving everywhere has been the norm for so long that people are simply incapable of imagining anything else. Add to that the huge amount of propaganda and astroturfing that will appear any time anyone wants to change anything about car centric infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

People are short sighted. Adding bicycle and pedestrian infrastructure will improve traffic in the long run, but the results will not happen right away.

Even people who actively want to bike can't use that infrastructure if there isn't enough of it for them to get where they need to go, and once there is enough of it it will take everyone else a while to start adopting it into their routines.

The way most American towns are layed out with all the residential areas, industrial areas, retail areas, etc segregated off into their own areas contributes to this because the average person has to travel much greater distances in their day to day activities, which is that much more infrastructure that must be added and also discourages people from taking non-motorized transport because of the sheer amount of effort and travel time. I live in a major city and the nearest grocery store is 4 miles away; it's a 1 hour round trip on my bike, and there's only bike infrastructure for a quarter of that.

Towns will add bike lanes to a few roads and when no one uses them (because no one has their house and their place of work/grocery store/etc on the same road) decide they aren't working and not add any more.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or over excessive speeding from one red light to the next. Even though most lights are perfectly timed if traveling just barely under the maximum posted limit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

This depends on where you are. They're most definitely not timed here, the 'main' route has green by default and the other ways are triggered off sensors in the road.

Still doesn't really change the fact speeding to the next red light won't save you much time. Legit be lucky to get 5 mins off an hour long commute in peak hour

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