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How does it stack up against traditional package management and others like AUR and Nix?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The sandbox can be very cumbersome when there is not a way to break out. I'm thinking specifically of command line tools for developers. You can poke holes in the sandbox to access the filesystem, but the moment you want to run an executable it won't let you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Flathub doesn't accept CLI tools (unlike the Snap store)

Regarding modifying Sandboxes, try Flatseal

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I never ever will use a flatpak or snap or whatever "application". I'm using good old .deb package.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I like it but I would prefer it to be more restrictive out of the box. Such as have apps declare a list of urls the are permitted to contact , a browser could have * .

I'd like a more granular filesystem list too more akin to apparmors were each file path needed is explicitly defined, in some cases you would need a wildcard or a directory but for most apps this could be done.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I like it, it's good for desktop apps but I LOVEEEEEE nix, if there was a graphical box distro I think it would beat everything else out of the water. Full reproducible builds is not something to sneeze at

[–] 4vr 2 points 11 months ago

I didn’t want to containerize every installed app. Switched to Arch and don’t have to worry about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I installed PyCharm via flatpak. I don’t appreciate that I can’t access vim via the IDE’s terminal, and so far that’s all I really have to say about it. I like that things are sandboxed, and I think maybe this wasn’t the kind of thing I ought to have used flatpak for.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I usually prefer not to use them, but they flatpak for Prism Launcher comes with all versions of Java preinstalled which is convenient because I play verious versions of Minecraf, other than that I try to use xbps as much as possible

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

It's alright

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I love the idea and the philosophy behind ! I have no trouble with them for now, one click install perfect.

However I’ll never use it for programming and I don’t understand why people use vs code flatpak or other coding app, because the app is contained and cannot interact with your system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] thanks for the resources I did not know. I was pretty confused it was not possible to do it and here you are thx ! :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

the app is contained and cannot interact with your system.

It can. Think of it like allowing a phone app to interact with your stored files.

https://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions.html#

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Where's that Chris Pratt meme? --

I don't know what that is and at this point I'm afraid to ask

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Flatpak is a project trying to fix many things at once

  • make apps that work on every distro
  • thus have apps officially supported by the devs, unlike distro packages mostly
  • sandbox apps with an android-like permission system with a rating system
  • use modern standards like delta-downloads, deduplication and BTRFS compression to save storage space
  • make everything nice and user friendly
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