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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Basically a consolidated version of the Myers-Briggs test, which is basically astrology for middle-managers.

[–] myusernameis 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Short story. My company brought in a different working-type consulting group. I decided to try my own experiment and answered the 150 survey completely randomly, didn't read the questions. Then sat through a 4 hour workshop where most of my colleagues told me it made so much sense I was a [whatever my results were, I forget]." Found out they paid like $10k for the day session, never told anybody what I did.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

If I have to ever sit through that shit again, I'm stealing your technique.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Middle Managers and 2nd rate psych students. But, having surveyed my undergraduate classes in the past, about 50% of them believe in astrology so it's no wonder the Myers-Briggs speaks to them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Isn't it meant to be a categorical insight?

I was always under the impression it's obviously non-scientific and simply there to explain the broad aspects of a personality to others quickly.

Maybe that's the real personality test. Exposing how prone someone is to tribalism over self-reflection based on "I am a..." vs "My outcome was..."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

What it's meant or actually useful for, vs how it's used in contexts like employment are significantly mismatched.

It's like understanding what a framing hammer is supposed to be used for and how to do so properly and safely, only to turn the news on and learn that the general population is somehow convinced that they're for eye surgery; and thousands of ER visits later, from dumbasses who DIY'd that shit and popped their eyes, the general population has learned... not a damn thing... they're still bashing their eyes apart with framing hammers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've had 3 dramatically different outcomes depending on the context in which I take it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I believe it clearly says that's a totally acceptable outcome at the start and explains why that's expected and fine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That it do. Albeit not loud enough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, some people like BuzzFeed quizzes, but it's easy to tell that it's for entertainment, knowing they're not scientific. When it's an documented personality test with a long history, it's easy to assume it's scientific. But social sciences weren't all that scientific until the last few decades, anyway.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

interestingly, anedoctaly, I'm an absolute skeptic about almost everything, including astrology, religion and the such, but this test was so on spot from me I had a real hard time being convinced it was pseudoscience

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've only known a handful of psych students, but even as students they knew enough about the Myers-Briggs to recognize it as pseudo-science bullshit. Sad to hear that's not universal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My Psych degree hangs framed above my toilet. It really brings the room together. I only put partial weight into standardized testing, IQ or personality tests, and I hope other people realize the constraints and fallabilities of these metrics. I don't detest that they exist. I just hope people don't horoscope 'em.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah... I've been rejected from jobs for not popping an "ENTJ" or whichever fucking Harry Potter house their overgrown facebook quiz was supposed to sort me into. People -with authority- absolutely horoscope em.

...with that anecdote in mind, I maaaaay be a tad biased.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Might vary from school to school. The bigger thing is upbringing, many first gen kids don't have that going into college so it's more a task to teach critical thinking to them. More privileged kids get that out the gate, especially if they're coming from private schools that encourage critical thinking and not following orders / memorization.

I teach at a place with mostly first gens, so thats how it is.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crawl into my basement... Cause I'm hosting the BIGGEST party in the WORLD where everybody gets WASTED and READS BOOKS until they CRY themselves to SLEEP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Damn, count me in

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two weeks before the party, I say I'm totally in and excited, and then the day of, I remember I don't want to do that and say I'm pretty sure I'm getting sick. Then B.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some good books can make you cry.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I cry reading stuff all the time. I read a lot of historical queer fiction because I'm a masochist, and then I cry because it was so unfair.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I can feel that and I'm cishet.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I think I have actually done B a few times

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

You'll NEVER GUESS what your results are!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

There are literally no other possibilities!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, I usually do both. Gotta find balance in your life.

[–] MystikIncarnate 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weird. So are you just holding massive parties in your basement while reading books?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MystikIncarnate 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't everybody?

But, ok, thanks.

Anything I should bring? Napkins perhaps? Anything else might be a bit more complicated than I can handle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Got a thesis on Dionysian ethics handy? Or napkins. Napkins are cool, too.

[–] MystikIncarnate 2 points 1 year ago

checks surrounding area

Seems I'm fresh out of thesises for Dionysian ethics, but I have this handful of napkins from Wendy's.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both, depending on the month. I have bipolar disorder.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I can envision the same but with my luck it'd be neither because timing never works to my advantage.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is option A so weird and unrelatable?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cause you are the one who crawls into the basement

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Oh, I thought crying yourself to sleep while reading was normal?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Little column A, little column B.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

do i have any money to spend? if yes, then A. if no, then B.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

A sounds like punishment thb

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Typical recruitment process questionnaire

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

B often except I have neither basement nor book so I just skip those parts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

B, but no crying

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like to just dangle freely so the tension unwinds itself. The problem is if I don't stop at the right time, I'll just spin so far around the other way I become wound up in the opposite direction.

[–] MystikIncarnate 2 points 1 year ago

Is there an option C?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm as introverted as they come, but I've actually done A, but never B.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes both thanks