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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And those 8 really rich guys definitely work less than 5 days a week already

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of their "work" consists of meetings that they don't even have to attend and where everyone has to do what they say because they're the boss. That and multi hour "business lunches".

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On the harder and more strenuous days it might even include golf!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On golf courses they own, so when they put it in as a "work expense" they get a tax credit and pay themselves back.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

They have a 5-minute work week.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago

And those 8 guys control the whole country. Nay, the world, at this point

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A 4-day workweek would be lovely if monthly salaries stayed the same (= hourly wages went up). Then I could work three days a week and get 75% of a full-time salary instead of just 60%, which would be kind of like a 25% raise. That'd leave me with so much more time to be silly :3

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I work 36 hours so 4 or 5 days every other week. I love my biweekly free Monday we get so silly with it :3 I'd take 4 days a week every week for the same money tho hehe

[–] CileTheSane 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the 4 day work week is generally presented as 10 hour days.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

There are several ways it's presented. But anything other than four 8-hour days with the same salary is just trying to pander to the rich people to make it more appealing to them. I personally would feel pretty terrible having to work 10 hours a day, and it would negate the positives of having an extra day off. It'd work for some people but it wouldn't be a real win for the working class as it would be the same number of working hours even though productivity has skyrocketed in the previous decades

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Don't most of those giant companies like Amazon and Walmart work 7 days a week, regardless of what is designated a workday?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

That doesn't mean every employee and contractor is coming in to work 24/7.

A workweek is per-person, not per-company.

[–] ImplyingImplications 29 points 1 year ago

Yes, they operate 24/7. If the work week is shortened, companies wont operate less hours, they'd just spend more money on staffing. They'd either need to hire more people to cover 24/7 operations, or pay existing staff overtime to work their current schedules. Companies don't want to spend more money on staffing which is why they don't want reduced work hours even though studies show it's beneficial for people's lives.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I'm a bit confused by your comment. By workday, do you mean individual for employees, or do you mean "business days", like when banking and financial transactions are historically run?

4 day work week would be for individual (full time, salaried) employees, to have a 4 day/32 hour workweek instead of a 5 day/40 hour workweek (at the same compensation). Companies like Amazon running 7 days a week just means the business doesn't close down over weekends or such, but doesn't generally mean a given employee is working 7 days straight. (Though, it absolutely can result in employees working 7 days straight, depending on pay period, how weeks are broken down for scheduling and payroll, and whether overtime is allowed and/or encouraged.)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Yes, but so do hospitals?

That down mean that every worker has to come in 7 days a week tho, right?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

And 24 hours per day. That's why they're using shift rosters.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

You know, if it's literally 8 guys, what are the chances that they're not all sat in a room and one goes "hey, there's a lot of evidence that switching to a four day workweek would be better in every way and would not affect our productivity or profits in any way. Do you think we should all adopt it in all our companies and change the world and people's lives for the better?" and they all take a moment and look at each other and as they all burst out laughing one says "fuck those losers, let them suffer" and they all high five and go back to drinking champagne out of panda skulls or whatever it is they do.

[–] UnrepententProcrastinator 11 points 1 year ago

Middle managers are also against it. It's not like they have friends at home...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Better not change anything on such a controversial topic

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

But thise guys are like... REALLY rich