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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by alessandro to c/pcgaming
 

"Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward.

We’re still learning what is best for PC players and your feedback has been invaluable. Thanks again for your continued support of Helldivers 2 and we’ll keep you updated on future plans."

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[–] Veritrax@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago (3 children)

All Sony had to do was make account linking optional and give a cosmetic to those who linked, and there would have been zero issues.

[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago

Exactly. If they'd gone with the carrot approach rather than the stick, I bet way more people would've just gone with it for way less fuss

[–] atocci@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just FYI, Mojang has completely locked down all accounts that did not migrate, and they are literally impossible to retrieve.

[–] atocci@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They did give people 3 years of advance notice that would happen, to be fair. Much better than the one month warning this would have been.

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m confused, wasn’t Sony against crossplay for decades?

I linked mine because I want to play with my little brother on PS5.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They realized what a mistake that was and have been moving to correct it in recent years. Though not always intelligently.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

“We realized that our stupid decision would stop people from giving us money, which is our only true motivation. We will continue to explore new ways to fuck you over in the future though, rest assured”

[–] InquisitiveApathy@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Maybe I'm just jaded, but I wonder how long it will be until Sony 'changes their mind' and tries to enforce contractual obligations again. I'm going to guess 6 months to wait for the negative PR to cool.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like TV manufacturers who wait until the product return period is over before enabling ads.

[–] agegamon@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hear you. I want to be positive about this because I want to keep playing, and the reversal (for now) makes me OK with doing so.

But Sony has a horrid track record. Edit - so does Msoft, people often forget how bad both of them are.

I also expect they'll try to work it back in somehow to capture more revenue and/or data. If it's not this again in a stealthier form, then it'll be something similar. No crossplay without PSN or no credit store without PSN, something like that.

[–] InquisitiveApathy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I also expect they'll try to work it back in somehow to capture more revenue and/or data. If it's not this again in a stealthier form, then it'll be something similar. No crossplay without PSN or no credit store without PSN, something like that.

This is moreorless what I'm expecting. They will either strongly incentivize it when the publicity dies down or place restrictions on those that don't link accounts.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

They might require it for crossplay or give some goodies for linking, but there's no fucking way they try to make it retroactively mandatory just to play at all again. After this statement, there would be ACTUAL grounds for a class action lawsuit if they did.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 25 points 1 year ago

They've already announced that they'll be requiring the service again for Ghosts of Tsushima's online component. The only thing Sony learned is to never let a game launch without making sure the account service works day 1.

[–] Voytrekk@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Frustrating that they made the decision in the first place. I'm still skeptical about their games in the future.

[–] mp3 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Somewhere at Sony, an MBA committed seppuku.

[–] bazus1@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

didn't even have a second. Just bled out.

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[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

"We swear we won't try again for 6 months!"

[–] MacedWindow@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Typo in the title, it'll let you edit it

Glad Sony was able to make the obvious decision. Hopefully all the people defending them feel a bit silly.

[–] alessandro 7 points 1 year ago

Typo in the title, it’ll let you edit it

Done, thanks

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago

"How did we not see this coming?" - Some asinine executive at Sony who apparently sees Origin and UbisoftConnect as success cases. I know it's not directly related, but several games on Steam from EA and Ubi require you to also have their launcher and people complain about that all the time.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago

Sony has a history with PC gaming they try to pretend never happened (SOE/Sony Online Entertainment, and the big Rootkit scandal.)

They've always shat on PC gaming, they're just coming to terms with the fact that consoles are practically just PCs at this point and they need to pivot to stay relevant.

[–] DebatableRaccoon 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is how it should be; companies learning their place, knowing we consumers have power over them and not the other way around

[–] thudge_mcgerk@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Making a PSN account wasn't the main issue it was players that can't officially make an account no longer being able to play. If it went ahead, player numbers would've gone down substantially, hurting the game in the long run.

[–] agegamon@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly, Sony played bait-and-switch tactics. If the requitement had been there from launch, people just wouldn't have been able to buy it and would have stayed away.

But this forced people to throw away money, or at least try to get a refund for the base game.

Not sure if those stupid credits were refunded to people who were gonna get screwed by this but I doubt it (yet another reason never to do micro transactions).

[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

People barely like signing in for one service how did they think people would react to having to sign into two?

what a stupid move, glad they got shouted back into sanity.

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