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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Ain't no fucking way Indiana is in the "Nice" category

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Bruh, I moved out here two years ago, and holy shit! These are the most miserable, hateful, rude, nasty, violent, stupid, lazy, and just all-around shitty people I have encountered in my life. Really, damn near everywhere I go in this state, I observe this behavior. I'm originally from Michigan, but I've been all over the US and really have not been anywhere like this.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I saw more Confederate battle flags around Indianapolis than I did in Atlanta. Fuck Indianapolis.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I'm amazed by how consistently bad the reviews for Indiana are. Even the food is somehow worse than the rest of the Midwest, apparently.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

It's called the middle finger of the south for a reason

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I get that this is basically a politcal compass meme overlayed on a map (and also that this is in cartography anarchy), but here's how I'd actually divide things up based on basically 0 practical experience:

Acts nice, is nice: West Coast (WA, OR, CA, HI) (WA might have to move down to the next category if they're feeling surly)

Acts mean, is nice: Northeast (ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT, NY, PA, NJ, MD, DE)

Acts nice, is mean: Southeast (AR, LA, KY, TN, MS, AL, WV, VA, NC, SC, GA, FL), Midwest (ND, SD, NE, KS, MN, IA, MO, WI, IL, MI, IN, OH), and Alaska

Acts mean, is mean: The rest (ID, MT, WY, NV, UT, CO, AZ, NM, OK, TX)

"Acts nice, is mean" still makes up a large part of the country, but "Acts mean, is mean" has been trending up for about a decade now.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I've colored it in as you described, at least I'm in one of the nice states

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I forgot to color in the hawaii square, one sec (now fixed, apologies hawaii)

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Alaska belongs more in the "acts mean, is nice" category. But it's less "mean" and more "apathetic and disinterested."

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think CA is act nice is mean. I lived there for 5 years and realized everyone was p. Passive aggressive.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

And of course that only aims to divide things up into big blocks similar to the original image. If I wanted to get more granular I'd probably put UT in "Acts nice, is mean" for example.

[–] Adderbox76 37 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The colder the weather gets, the more we tend to be nice. Its just natural when you're living in a state/province where breaking down on the side of the road in winter can mean death.

And I'm only half kidding. I do honestly believe that a shared experience of harsh winters creates empathy. Same reason Nordic countries are nice to each other mostly as well.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I think there is some truth to this.

When I lived in an apartment, many times I would shovel my neighbor's parking spot if it looked like they were working late during a snow storm. There's nothing worse than coming home after a long day to three feet of snow you have to shovel immediately.

Or helping someone whose car is stuck in snow and can't drive away. We've all helped at least one person by giving them a push.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That actually tracks

Look at the "mean" spots: summers get over 110-120 in a lot of those places

Seem and are mean is the SW, where we keep death valley

You KNOW people are bigger assholes when it's hot. We ALL do

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You KNOW people are bigger assholes when it's hot. We ALL do

I don’t agree with this at all. That’s not my experience as an Aussie.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal 6 points 2 months ago

The stars rotate the opposite direction there, so it works the other way. Antarctica is a barren waste for a reason.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That explains why the Vikings are known to be so kind.

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[–] MystikIncarnate 30 points 2 months ago

As a Canadian, you can extend the top two up to us and it would still mostly fit.

I'm on the "acts mean, is nice" side in Ontario, and you all can get fucked 🖕

Let me help you with carrying your groceries, fuck face.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The bible belt / coal belt is not nice.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

C'mon, the coal belt is the definition of acts mean, is nice.

Bible belt is peak 'southern hospitality' though, sweet words covering a spit in the face.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The coal belt is filled with abandoned elderly, selfish assholes in lifted trucks, religious extremists, and white supremacists.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"Well how you doin', Honey!?"

in her mind

Who the fuck is this goddamn oreo ass tramp walking into my fucking store with her fuckin low cut, 5 year old torn up-ass Vans on and her fuckin tattery-ass-lookin-ass bitch-ass fleece hoodie?

"That'll be $6.34, Sug!"

"You have a nice day, now!"

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

Near as I can tell since moving back, being "Iowa nice" means "be white and republican and talk down to everyone else" so no, more like acts nice, is mean for us.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“The entire Midwest disliked that”

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

My experience having lived across the US has been closer to https://youtu.be/u3qJlWQNNxA?si=EU_dgGLT-vWgmNXy - I haven't met a kind ("actually nice") person in Northern California who grew up there.

Edit to add: err, except my wife of course.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Who ever made this has never been to Minnesota. Or Iowa for that matter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

The Midwest in general. I feel we're getting lumped in with New England.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

PNW should be: acts nice, is scared

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Quick context, if you ask for directions in Seattle, people will gladly help, but you will see the terror in their eyes that they have to socialize with someone they don't know.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Truly the Finns of America.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

No lies detected (Seattle native here)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Damn, maybe I was secretly born in Seattle and smuggled to the other side of the country.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Better buy yourself a Subaru, a North face jacket, a climbing gym membership, and some weed and Zoloft.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

From the south, now in the PNW. Can confirm, I’ve probably accidentally scared the shit out of so many Seattlites just by being friendly

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Person: "good afternoon!"

Seattleite: "haha I'm in danger"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I had a bartender tell me one time that to make friends with a Seattlite you probably need to randomly run into them 10ish times

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As a young Tulsan on my first tech support job, it took me ages to figure out that Yanks aren't as mean as rattlesnakes, they just talk that way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

As a northerner who lived in Tulsa for four years, I'd say Oklahoma was "Acts nice, are crazy"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This map applies to every individual city as well, just make sure "acts mean is mean" is the rich quadrant of the city and the rest will map nicely.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

That may be the "acts nice, calls the police on you because you're on their neighborhood and don't match the pantone"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Alaska: Fuck off and leave us alone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hawaii: Get the fuck here and hang with us.

~(Plz,~ ~we~ ~need~ ~money~ ~to~ ~ship~ ~things~ ~across~ ~half~ ~the~ ~pacific)~

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Im a european, been to san francisco once, nicest fucking people ive ever met.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

As someone who used to live in new York, can confirm. New Yorkers come off as rude but usually they just have places to be, when they're not trying to get somewhere they're quite nice.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is oddly quite accurate

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

No it used to be before newsmax brainwashed the midwest

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