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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It was simple.

People didn't see the wages increase by much, people didn't see prices of stuff drop.

Result: "Meh, I voted for them dems last time and nothing changed, might as well just stay home"

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because they had no memory of the Trump clown show.

They were fighting each other for toilet paper under Trump.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Fighting for toilet paper was better than homelessness.

Also definitively better than not being able to put food on the table.

Democrats have to realize that no one cares about your identity politics when they're working 100 hours a week at three jobs for the privilege of living in a roach-infested studio apartment.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are Republicans not just as bad with identity politics?

Would Trump’s brand of conservatism be better for these people? I’d guess not. Trump cares only about himself and those he’s closest to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think, and I hate to say this, they are way, way better at it.

Also, I'd argue that if you sat through the last eight years and you honestly think either ruling party is suitable for uplifting the masses, socially, economically, or otherwise, that you're obstinately ignoring the world around you. (Or you don't have to work for a wage.) If you want meaningful change on a massive scale, you're powerless in America, unless you're willing to follow in the footsteps of a certain Italian gentleman who's recently gained notoriety. (Or a billionaire.)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Alternative quote: "I'm going to stay home, because I don't understand anything, and I'm the biggest idiot ever!"

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's simple that they spent their time and energy trying to convince Republicans that would hardly ever cross the aisle while ignoring progressives. That's why they lost. The Republican party is uniform, the Democrats are not.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Uniformly ~~controlled~~ guided by baseless fear mongering, but yeah.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why dwell on the Cheney thing?

She and the party didn't offer an economically populist message. Any status quo democrat would have lost.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Well it's a good thing Trump promises to fix everything by raising prices and deporting everyone with a tan! That's an economically populist message I can get behind!

/s

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

It just underscores the shitty campaign they ran.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“I will have a Republican in my cabinet, guaranteed.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Where is that quote from? Media distorted her words when having been asked about such. It was around the lines of "Would you consider putting a Republican in your cabinet". And she said sure I believe diversifying views is good.

Far from guaranteeing anything. But w.e, it's all in the past now

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Campaigning with the daughter of a war criminal was not a good look, even if it didn't move Kamala right on any actual policy. It's perfectly reasonable to look askance at me if I'm out there doing campaign stops with Uday Hussein, even if I still support a $15 minimum wage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What crimes did his daughter commit?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did I say she committed any crimes?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So she's just guilty by association? That's an unfortunate way to judge people.

What bad things did your parent do? I want to judge you for it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're both Republicans so....yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

That's ignorant. She's been critical of the Republican party for almost a decade.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not many, but she campaigned for her war criminal father in 2004 so she at least didn't have issues with the principle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What are the "not many" crimes she committed? List them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah fair enough. That should've been "none".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Props for admitting it. These people are scumbaggish enough, no need to make things up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Okay, now compare "Campaigned with the daughter of a war criminal" to "Is a war criminal rapist felon con man with dementia." You're arguing that "Not a good look" is worse than "Possibly the actual Anti-Christ."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You shouldn't assume that everyone who criticizes Kamala Harris' actions during the campaign supported Trump or didn't vote. That'd make you just as tribal and reactive as Trump supporters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Either you voted for Harris or you didn't. This isn't tribal or reactive, this is a basic understanding of how the election works.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It just made it look too establishment when people want change

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

yeah and maybe Cheney chose to endorse without bargaining but the dems made the decision to parade that endorsement instead of being neutral or rejecting it

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

The average Kamala Stan has never followed her campaign nor listened to any of her speeches. Not surprising since every time Kamala said something ridiculous the echo chambers downvoted it into oblivion.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

It's hard to be progressive when you are DVDA quadruple spitroasted with billionaire dong. Limits motion.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you don't have to move if you are already there

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I thought this was the implied conclusion before the last sentence lmao

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

What about the "I'm going to put together a council of Republicans to advise the govt"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Im just glad that its over with. Here's to hoping the next candidate is better

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it won't be because it's never about the actual quality of the candidates

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

You're right but im trying to be optimistic

[–] nova_ad_vitum 2 points 1 month ago

Hoping achieves nothing. Participating in the leadership race could at least achieve something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

My local Democratic party affiliate literally has the photo of Kamala and Liz Cheney holding hands as their cover photo on FB. It's clear the leadership is conservative themselves and are more than willing to hand victories to Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis in order to deny anyone slightly to their left any sort of power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

This is fucking stupid. Yes, campaigning with Cheney didn't push her to the right in and of itself, but she in the same time period promised to include Republicans in her cabinet and build that stupid border wall, so the existence or lack of a causal relationship frankly doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Bluesky looks just like twitter. I thought this was from the birdie site.

Now that I look at it, even the logo looks similar.