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Summary

Ukraine has stopped Russian natural gas transit to Europe after a prewar deal expired, citing national security concerns amid the ongoing war.

This marks a significant shift, as Russian gas continued to flow through Ukraine’s pipelines for nearly three years post-invasion.

The move aligns with Europe’s broader goal to phase out Russian gas by 2027, with Russia's market share already plummeting to 8%.

The halt impacts countries like Moldova and highlights Europe's diversification efforts, including U.S. and Norwegian imports.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Moldova that apparently needs to pay the "debt" of russian controlled transinistria that was recieving gas for "free" from russia. You can't make this shit up.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I don't understand why Moldova don't ask for international help to kick out Russians occupying part of their country, if they don't want to move out themselves.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because they don't really want it. People living there are mostly old and had soviet/russian propaganda shoved into their ears for the last century or people with 3+ nationalities that also run business that is either illegal or in gray area, and opening that can of worms is of no interest to anybody either in Mboldova or Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's a daft argument though. "let's allow occupying army because it suits some criminals and some brainwashed idiots".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nah, you misunderstand, it suits business interests in both countries. Odesa (big port city) is like 60 kilometers away from Moldova/Transinistria border and Cisnau is in ~200. There is a lot of money in smuggling, unlicenced alcohol/tobacco production etc. There is like 1000 russian army people in the region and Moldovan armed forces or even politicians could have resolved the issue if it was in anyones's interest, call it a hunch but even after removal of russian forces it would take years before "re-integration" will really start. Despite region being very small.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How is it different to what I wrote?

Do you think US for example would be happy with Russians occupying Alaska if it was convenient for some brainwashed idiots and some criminals and even some businesses?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

With Trump in office? Yes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

It's the status quo and not doing anything in hope (valid perhaps) that the problem resolves itself is the strategy employed by Moldova. While your comparison is technically true it's not all that clear, and it can become ugly, because Moldova as a state never actually held these territories, and in case of russian disappearance act they will immediately claim that they are an authonomous region as moldovan law states, or even start their old song about them being ukrainians so obviously they can't be part of the country on general terms. At best Moldova gets another gagauzia. Add to everything else their stokholm syndrom (I know that it probably doesn't exist) with russia and their strong influence.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Um... have to break this to you, but...

Yes, Americans are fully happy with foreign nations buying up parts of it, as long as it's capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What on earth are you talking about?

Part of Moldova is occupied by Russian army. Not sold. Occupied.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok, so any country can buy the US. People will celebrate it, and not fight it.

No need to airdrop a military, just cut a check.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that's how it has been done for ages. At least when it comes to the administration. Best democracy money can buy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Can that army do anything effectively with the manpower and equipment they have?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Even if they did, i doubt there's any real international help out there except they will sell you weapons

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because their constitution literally prevents it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does their constitution allow for partial occupation of their country?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah they snuck it in using a sticky note

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Freezing nights in Tiraspol.

Moldova can be supplied via Romania, and I guess it won't be too much work to also supply Transnistria. There's bound to be lots of Transnistrians coming over the border looking for warmth, Transnistrian industry is fucked two ways both when it comes to energy and workers, add general discontent, meaning the powers that be are fucked in three ways. Long story short it's not going to take long until they're going to start talking about re-integration terms. I mean it's not like Transnistrian companies wouldn't already be paying Moldovan taxes, they wouldn't be able to export to European markets otherwise and they depend on that. The inner-Moldovan border isn't a front line, they'll figure it out. Might very well already have, but wanted to wait until the gas actually cuts off.