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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For me its the "different recipe, nothing to do with macaroni cheese".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Important to point out that he isn't saying that she is wrong for doing that, it's just a different recipe, don't call it British Mac&cheese!

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Italians demand our respect for their culinary traditions when Carbonara is literally a ~~19th~~ 20th century invention. Ridiculous! Next time I'm having pasta, I'm putting ketchup on it to intentionally dishonor them

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

20th, not 19th. The first mention of the dish by that name is from just after WWII.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good catch, I tend to get those mixed up. Will fix

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

No worries, 's all good. :)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Give it some fancy name and call it a new dish.

Something like "Maccaronara al Heinzorino"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's the thing, of it's a new recipe with a new name it's not sacrilege. It's like those "Spanish omelette" or paellas I see on the net. If you want to fuck around with omelettes do it but don't put our name on it, if you want to play around with rice feel free but don't call it paella!

Next time I see an omelette with fish being called Spanish omelette imma throw hands. We do have a variation with fish but it's a different dish!

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[–] inconel 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I'd eat that honestly

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Call me a sinner but I love cream in my carbonara. Im ok with it having another name tho, that way people wouldnt get angry

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Only jackass' high on their own farts gets pissed about someone else adding variation to a dish

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Same goes with pineapple on pizza.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No, cream on Hawaiian pizza is terrible.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

It's excellent on an artichoke pizza though.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who is Ara and why are you creaming her?

[–] Thavron 2 points 1 month ago

She's into it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

The people of Cremona are eying you suspiciously.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nothing I hate more than food snobs, put whatever you want in your food

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That sounds fucking delicious.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, that's just alfredo with bacon at that point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Original Alfredo also does not have cream. It's butter and parmigiano

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Original Alfredo is pretty much an American invention. There is a restaurant in Rome that makes "pasta al burro e parmigiano" but that's pretty much it. Americans took the dish, put cream and shit in it and gave it that name. They can keep it imo.

In Italy pasta Alfredo is more of a meme than anything else, and "pasta al burro" is made pretty much only when you are sick.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't add cream, but I make 'alfredo' as a milk sauce from butter, flour, lots of parm, and milk.

But I also add milk to my espresso, even if I do use an Italian Moka pot. They have a warrent for my arrest as we speak, lol.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Last night, I watched Chinese Cooking Demystified's most recent video where they trace the history of mapo tofu to the best of their abilities. It was a fascinating watch where they had a particular recipe incarnation that defied their old definition of proper mapo tofu. At the end of the video they note how it's transformed over the years noting that there's an obsession these days for an authentic way of preparing dishes often using this point as a reason to criticize a dish. They aren't against criticizing a dish, but call for specific ciriticisms such as flavor balance or shape which is important in Chinese cuisine.

So I went looking though some critiques looking for something about how cream makes it too heavy or hides the flavor of this ingredient or that. What I found was something more exciting. This academic did a quick historical gloss of carbonara and found that several iterations of early carbonara included cream and other taboo ingredients like butter. It wasn't standardized into its canonical form until the 1990s.

Growing up in a traditional household, my parents never worked from recipes, but regularly made delicious dishes beloved by their friends and family members alike. Technique, ingredients, and interests ruled the day. Knowing how to bring out the flavors of the ingredients you had on hand to match each other made delicious food. And the lanes for dishes were much wider because the ingredient lists weren't as rigid. Obviously, a biriyani without rice be confusing if you dared serve it. But do you need kokum or can you use lemon juice? Is a carbonara still a carbonara with cream, with bacon instead of guancole, vegetarian? I don't know. Maybe I care less about the words coming out of my mouth than the food going in it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

At least he didn't suggest that health insurance should use a deny, delay, and defend strategy for insurance claim payments

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I thought for sure panel 3 would involve more violence.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Italians and food are the worst. Let people enjoy what they want and stop acting like you’re top shit.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

I get especially annoyed when people act like because their great great grandparents on one side of their tree were Italian that they have some innate knowledge of pasta and sauce.

Like even if nonna learned from her nonna and you learned from her, theres still a non zero chance that great great nonna was a SHIT COOK.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I like my steak well done. This is the best when you do it with some A5 Wagyu.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can enjoy what you want, just don't name it as something already stablished. Of ypu say you are doing a beef BBQ and suddenly you bring chicken saying "yeah we do beef with chicken in this house" is as stupid as someone adding extra ingredients into a dish and not changing the name.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Fuck the original recipe. I've never had better Alfredo or Carbonara than cooking the sauce myself using garlic, heavy cream, parmesan, and a bit of cornstarch slurry to help keep it from breaking.

Either that or we can give the cream version a different name and acknowledge it as a better dish than traditional Alfredo.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i first read this comic as saying “ice cream in carbonara” and thought the injuries were justified. but after rereading it i’m not so sure anymore

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Cream or better crème fraîche makes a very good sauce when you melt it onto the carbonara IMO.

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