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[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I understand the joke but fun fact: WWII planes in fact couldn't fly that far(the obvious shorter route) which is one of the reasons the attack was able to succeed, no body expected it despite the numerous warnings they had because it seemed impossible but that is simply because the aircraft carrier was such a new technology that nobody knew how instrumental they would be in modern warfare.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago (3 children)

So now you expect me to believe that they had flying aircraft carriers? How would that even work?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

Disney has some movies for you to watch

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

But Japan had a flying battleship. With a superweapon on the front.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

Hardcore History has a great series on the Pacific Theatre of WWII called Supernova in the East. It goes into the learning curve of aircraft carriers by Japan and the US. There was actually a fair amount of luck involved by the US shortly after Pearl Harbor that diminished Japan's air capabilities for the rest of the war.

The way it was always presented to me in school is that the US victory was inevitable. This podcast series gives a much less biased view.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

I'm pretty sure they were well aware of it, and just let it happen to boost support for the US entering the war.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I do believe our maps have influenced people's ideas quite a lot and maybe even led some people towards flat eartherism. I have a friend who believes Trump wants Greenland because of this very projection and it's absurd overexaggeration.

Not to mention, and mildly relevant to OP, it also obscures the comically large and absolutely real size of the Pacific Ocean:

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Point nemo. If ur boat is there then the closest person to u is in the iss.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

That is true for a lot of places though. The ISS is only ~400 kilometres from the earth. Unless you are on a shipping lane (or close to a shore), most places on the ocean will be more than 400km from other people. Also many places in the sahara, Atacama, Gobi desert, Siberia, Canada, Alaska, Greenland ...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

finally a map only with New Zealand

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Isn't this rotated also? Instead of N/S being at the top/bottom, this looks to be rotated counter-clockwise 45°.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Dang. Had no clue Japanese planes couldn't fly over land.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

Well duh, why else were we island hopping?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

They were seaplanes, dummy.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

What an idiot. Planes can fly over land - they just had to fly over the US and Eurasia to cut the distance.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

what if they accidentally hit a tree? flying over the ocean is safer

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

It was during a war. You have to take risks to win

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago

New headline, "Flat Earther Has Concerns".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Obama did Pearl Harbor, WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is it even a coincidence that he was born in Hawaii?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

I heard he was really from Agrabah

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

huge if true

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

lmao, but it makes sense if one assumes the earth is also flat 😄

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Flight times are still a point of discussion with flat earth. On their model, the distances between South America, Africa and Australia are huge and doesn't match up with the flight times posted by airlines so naturally all those airlines are conspiring they say.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They couldn't have flown the distance from Japan over the pacific, either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

yeah the OP is actually a shorter distance

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

I am not fearless. What I fear most is … stupidity!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

So obvious it was Canada all along. Never just the Canadians!