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German lawmakers are debating whether to pursue a ban on the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD), but many fear the move could backfire ahead of the Feb. 23 national election.

The proposal, backed by 124 lawmakers, seeks a court review of whether the AfD is unconstitutional.

Critics, including Chancellor Olaf Scholz, warn a failed attempt could strengthen the party, which is polling at 20%.

The debate underscores concerns over the AfD’s extremism but also the risks of fueling its anti-establishment narrative.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

Politico is owned by the German equivalent of Murdoch who are actively promoting the AfD across all their media by the way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 34 points 17 hours ago

"Should we ban the Nazi party?"

The world is an onion article

[–] [email protected] 19 points 16 hours ago

Short memory.

Ban them unflinchingly and completely.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Welp, their inability to make a decision almost ensures they will follow the same technocratic/autocratic path as the US.

Who'd have thought the thing to kill democracy would be Admin rights being tantalizing to techbros as a stand in for authoritarianism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

technocratic

I was unaware this was a feature of society unique to the political far right.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

technocracy != Elon Musk as president

technocracy is when you have political scientists and engineers as politicians, not billionaires and lawyers.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

In common usage, I'd argue it just means a society which is run by technology rather than people, which everyone is trying to do these days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That might be what people think the word means when they first hear it, but that doesn't mean we should use it that way.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Well if you actually want to communicate with others outside of academia, you're going to have to get used to attempting to understand people rather than constantly trying to "fix" them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

So we should just do away with definitions, and go with whatever people think a word means the first time they hear it? Why?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

"I just can't decide whether or not to get rid of the Nazis. It's not like anything bad happened before..."

[–] [email protected] 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't you know that there's very fine people on both sides?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I thought most Germans disagreed with that, but apparently not enough.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

I guess German schools did not try hard enough teaching kids history.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 23 hours ago

Well, what happened last time you guys let this happen? Maybe do the opposite of that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It's kinda weird that we have to betray the principals of democracy to preserve it.

I felt the same way about jailing Trump before the election. If that's the only way to keep the fascists out of power, maybe we should reconsider the idea of democracy. (or of Germany or America for that matter)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 18 hours ago

It's not though. Democracy relies on a bunch of environmental factors we blew through about 100 years ago. If these parties were out meeting people one to one and making a rational case, that'd be one thing. If the press was doing their job of informing everyone properly, that'd be another thing.

But then, if they were doing that, they wouldn't be so fucking dangerous. They're simply riding on propaganda which we know works every time. And since capitalism also requires propaganda, we can't shut that part down without restructuring our entire economic system, which analysts suggest might take longer than three, or even four weeks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

In political science, a reactionary or a reactionist is a person who holds political views that favor a return to the status quo ante—the previous political state of society—which the person believes possessed positive characteristics that are absent from contemporary society. As a descriptor term, reactionary derives from the ideological context of the left–right political spectrum. As an adjective, the word reactionary describes points of view and policies meant to restore a status quo ante.

As an ideology, reactionism is a tradition in right-wing politics; the reactionary stance opposes policies for the social transformation of society, whereas conservatives seek to preserve the socio-economic structure and order that exists in the present. In popular usage, reactionary refers to a strong traditionalist conservative political perspective of a person opposed to social, political, and economic change.

Reactionary ideologies can be radical in the sense of political extremism in service to re-establishing past conditions. To some writers, the term reactionary carries negative connotations—Peter King observed that it is "an unsought-for label, used as a torment rather than a badge of honor."