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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Us is looking like a limp dick cuck...

Chinese did a free market on US and oligarchs are having a melt down over it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Yeah and I thought taking whatever you need to train AIs was fine, right AI companies?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

IJBOL is what all the cool kids are using

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

OT: the sudden reload of the page in a reception hole on the train caused me to disable JS for tomshardware for forever. No reload that way. And it even loads faster.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

lmao the meltdown continues

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is some context missing? I'm trying to be dense, I'm just not sure how Deepseek broke American laws. I get that a license is required for countries to purchase these from the vendor. What is stopping a third party from collecting hardware through intermediaries and reselling them to a Chinese company outside of US borders?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes.

Your response got that there is limited legal recourse, even if it’s true. The main hope is messaging but it’s a long shot.

The Deepseek-R1 paper shows us that training good LLMs can be done by anyone. That means you don’t need NVidias top of the line chips and you don’t need to pay a premium to some company that got access to those chips.

If it turns out that they lied about the hardware they used, it means that Nvidia and the big AI companies still enjoy a monopoly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Makes sense.

[–] Nomecks 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You're not allowed to buy/resell the hardware to China as an intermediary.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I get the prevailing idea, and I can understand the reasoning behind it. My question really was trying to ferret out whether it was US laws that were violated, Singaporean laws, the initial trade agreement, or something else.

[–] Nomecks 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The seller and buyer both violated US export controls, which is against US law.

[–] BCsven 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why does China care about US law though?

[–] Nomecks 1 points 1 week ago

They don't, but that wasn't your question.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The intermediaries care. This is very obvious.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Like how everything on the internet got smuggled into their training data?

yawn stop complaining US big tech, it isn't a good look on you and besides if you are complaining that means you aren't working and taps sign the sign you put up yourself in place of the old one we all liked (what did it say? "maybe don't do evil"? I can't remember anymore) says "results not excuses".

: )

If I may leave you with a bit of advice, almost everybody hates your guts and honestly you deserve it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Authorities, including the White House and the FBI, are investigating whether DeepSeek obtained restricted AI GPUs through third-party firms in Singapore.

I wonder if this has anything to do with all those high-level terminations disguised as Jan 6 investigation retribution at the FBI.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago
[–] ColdWater 5 points 1 week ago

Onion posts are less ridiculous than this

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Doesn't even come close to the h100s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Cope and seeth