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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 hour ago

wind and solar are not popular for conservatives because they were left talking points first. which obviously means it's wrong, libtards owned yet again

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, wind is also a form of solar power. (Wind being caused by the difference in heat between the different hemispheres/poles & the rotation of the earth)

So wind & solar power are indirect & direct long-range nuclear energy sources, respectively.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

In the end, all power is solar power

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I'm honestly wondering this. Renewables reduce dependency on foreign countries, so using them can be interpreted as a patriotic act. They make sense, geostrategically, not just for saving earth but also for reducing the leverage other countries have over yours. This could be something that both, green activists and nationalists, can jointly agree on. I don't get it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

I think the problem, as it often is, is big businesses lobbying for continued relevancy at the cost of societal progress.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Even works down to the state level. My state, Wisconsin, has no coal mines, no oil wells, and no natural gas wells. The closest thing we have to any of it is the best sand for fracking. Otherwise, every dollar of energy we spend ends up leaving the state one way or another.

Unless, that is, we do something intelligent, like building an offshore wind farm on Lake Michigan. Though I'm sure someone will complain that we're killing the whales.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

"Actually Natural Gas" "Orbital Fusion"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

I mean Natural Gas is as natural as Iron or Coal. The problem is extracting and burning it is causing issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

They're both Orbital Fusion.

We should try to harness the power of the tides, since that's lunar gravity driven.

um...

Moon Rodeo Power?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

Does the right like nuclear? I thought they didn't. It's pretty clean efficient energy, though it has been overtaken in recent years by wind and solar for cost.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

They like nuclear and hate regulation, so that’s a match made in heaven for disasters.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Maggie Thatcher was one of the earliest politicians to talk about global warming. She did it to prop up nuclear, which was losing the narrative at the time to Greenpeace and the like.

They like nuclear in so far as they can use it to beat certain elements of the environmental left over the head. Conservative governments have come in gone in both the US and UK, and they've done very little to actually build out nuclear power.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago

The right likes nuclear when they can drop it on someone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

In the US I thought nuclear was one of the few bipartisan issues they can agree on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Yeah, they love it and are constantly criticizing the left for chasing renewables as a solution to our energy needs and (for the less extreme ones who accept it's real) climate change.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

At least that's pretty close, only a 17% difference.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, attitudes have really cooled about nuclear power over the years. We might be in a different climate position right now if we hadn't shied away from it decades ago.

[–] cygnus 2 points 3 hours ago

Climate, and geopolitical too. Look at France vs Germany in the last few years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

In what world does a 51% approval rating count as loving it? 67% feels like a stretch to even call a consensus.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Well they don't seem to love it as much as they love coal and oil, that's for sure, but they have been very loud about their support of nuclear in recent history.

It's become much more bipartisan too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

They don’t mind being under someone’s thumb for basic necessities as long as that someone is an unaccountable business owner.