Ye is a f***ing clown. A misogynistic, racist, Nazi, homophobic, ableist, sexual abuser who fell off almost 10 years ago now. I am so ashamed I used to love his music.
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Ye is a f***ing clown
no hes a nazi
clowns are good please dont be offensive
clowns are good
Stephen King has entered the chat...
no thats just a bad apple its not all clowns
ACAB
whoa buddy all clowns are bastards what did they do to you
Do we really want to know though?
clowns are good
The vast majority of children who have ever been close up to a clown disagree with you.
You left out mass child abuser. But I wouldn't recommend you reading about Donda Academy if you have a weak stomach.
Don't worry, you can swear on the internet. At least here, you can't do that on TikTok or Youtube
I still remember downloading The College Dropout when it released and loving it so much I had to share it with my friends. His whole album run up to Yeezus was great. But yeah the dude's been mentally ill for awhile now. Haven't listened to anything from him for a long, long time now.
Pablo sucked too, I will die on this hill.
Pablo had some good tracks but it was the beginning of his drop off in quality for sure
Art is one of those difficult subjects. As long as you're not financially supporting them anymore (including with streaming) there's no harm in having a relationship with a track that came from someone who had a downfall. I still listen to the Thriller album sometimes, and though it is always freighted with the context of what came later, I am able to separate the art from the artist enough to still enjoy the thing in itself.
I still listen to the Thriller album sometimes, and though it is always freighted with the context of what came later
I'm very much aware of the controversy around MJ, but in the end he was cleared on all the charges. There's obviously a ton of things which are problematic, to say the least, but in my personal opinion he was a victim of the system too. There's absolutely things to condem him for, but I don't think he was a bad person in the end. Just someone who really needed some help which wasn't there. Britney Spears would be a better comparison than Kanye.
And there's quite a big gap between being a problematic human being who created (ambiguously) some of the best art around and someone who straight up wants to make a statement of being a bigger natzi than Elon.
I have a bigger problem with MJ than Kanye. Kanye admits to being an ass and his music has fell off since 808. But MJ contends that he did nothing and I don't believe him. I believe the victims. Especially after that HBO movie. I just can't support the guy.
You're right, it was a stretch to generalize between the two. I'm just keen on the point of separating the art from the artist in the context of everything being streamed for money. It's fine to listen to any old shit that used to hold uncomplicated joy for you, as long as it's a local copy.
Tell that to people that claim to be allies with trans people, yet can't help but trip over themselves to hand Joanne money for any and all HP merch.
It's not easy with a kid. I refuse to give her a fucking dime though, he can watch or read it pirated if he insists. We've got trans friends and family.
doesnt kanye know that being a nazi is bad for business? is he stupid?
"Nooo! He's just bipolar!" Some may say, but he's actually really stupid.
iaHt hes not just stupid hes a really bad business man
nazis have historically known to be bad at business
Well, the two are not exclusive as well.
This is in no way a defence of his actions, but he definitely has mental health issues.
Likely internalized bigotry too. Considering when we hear about his mental health falling off it's always in this context of him claiming to be a Nazi.
Apparently he got a second diagnosis and he's not bipolar but on the spectrum, according to himself.
Probably figured that was a better cover for being a nazi, after Elon's Sieg Heil
Getting pretty tired of shithead Nazis claiming they’re autistic. Autism doesn’t make you a Nazi
I heard that when he would start to talk to Kim he would start singing halfway through the convo. That reminds my of my one friend whose suffering from schizophrenia.
being a nazi is bad for business
I'm sorry, but have you seen the world lately? What on earth has led you to believe this? Nazism is in its highest demand ever, so much so that even some Jews are onboard and are giving Trump literal golden gifts to celebrate ethnic cleansing. The richest man in history just proudly threw up a nazi salute for the world to see as he became the defacto POTUS.
The soul-crushing truth is that being a nazi is the best business decision one can make right now. I hate it, and I wish something could be done about it.
iabt my mistake i was using outdated sources
Is it bad for business these days? Tesla still worth a shit tone of money and he fucking saluted on national television.
This is... This is what worries you about this?
For far too many people, the decision whether to cooperate with Nazis depends on profits to be had.
It was true of IBM in the 1940s, and it's true today.
i can criticize two things at once hes a really bad guy and a really bad business guy too
Drug abuse + social media, match made in hell.
I'm guessing he was a bigot long before he tried a single drug and certainly long before social media.
Because those things do not cause bigotry.
Because those things do not cause bigotry.
While that could be true, they sure cause metastasizing bigotry.
Maybe, but I think in his case, what those things (and his mental illness) do is remove his filter.
When he wasn't open about it, it was still right there, barely beneath the surface.
Now that is so insane.
Ikr? Whose still tweeting...
More insane than Trump wanting to put a Riviera in Gaza?
Psychopath children desperately wanting your attention
Kayne is actually severely mentally ill, though.
You can’t excuse it, otherwise you could discount all Nazis as mentally ill
No, I mean like he legitimately needs antipsychotics. Being a Nazi doesn't require mental illness.
He’s absolutely fried his brain on nitrous