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I'll go

  1. I'm not alone.
  2. Trump:

Declares martial law

Or

Has defied court orders

Or

Has committed violence against government officials

Or

Dissolved all other branches of government

There is probably more but these are ones that come to mind.

Edit:

Deleted my responses. I asked for honest opinions. I'm not here to call balls and strikes.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago

Some Americans in this thread seems to think this will all blow past while they sit comfortably in their homes.

It won't. Your passivity is exactly what the Republicans depend on. Posting online won't save you. You need to take your actions out in the real world.

There's not one correct course of action, but don't get fooled into inaction. Whether you're a peaceful protester, run for local office, or do a Luigi I won't get myself involved with. Just don't mistake online activity for activism. And don't think you're powerless, that's how they win.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've already taken to the street in protest, starting eight years ago. Anyone who hasnt yet either isn't going to or is just now coming of age.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Same. I was there for the Women's march, there for BLM, after George Floyd, and most recently for the 50501 (which was surprisingly well attended despite it's quick set-up). Let me know if there's another one, and I'll be there too. All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago

I'll be honest (please don't judge me):

I'm scared to protest. My brother got a bit aggressive last night and I felt so scared, I can't imagine seeing the streets full of fascist pigs (cops), my fight or flight response will probably make me freeze or run away. If I ever protest I'll be the first ones to get arrested/tortured/killed. I don't know if I'll ever find the courage to do it. I'm dealing with severe depression, and I don't think I can even handle the stress.

If I joined protests, I could also face backlash from the Chinese American community, because I'm sure some are gonna be like "why are you trying to paint a target on our backs" (especially the first generation immigrants), because that'd be my mother's reaction. Remember than Chinese American support for the democratic candidate is not as high as Black Americans' 90+%, I think its more like 50% to 60%. Some don't even vote. I would feel like the "odd one out" which would further discourage me in protesting.

But, I think there might be one scenario that I would feel empowered to take a stand. If trump declared Chinese Americans (or just Asian Americans broadly) as enemies of the state, I think my parent's would probably be supportative of me joining the protests. I think the peer support from my fellow Chinese Americans and solidarity, would make me feel like I'm not just alone in this. I would feel safer since I'm part of a bigger group, I would feel like my part in the protest would feel more meaningful, because protesting alone feels like my efforts are in vain. On top of that, it'd also be a lot harder to identify me. Imagine being the only [insert racial group here] person to attend a protest, they'd find you and jail you so quick. Imagine like 1/5th of Chinese Americans protested. Good luck identifying 1 Million people. (Also better if other Asian Americans of similar skin tones attended, that'd make surveillance much more difficult)

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (11 children)

It will take the protests being armed.

Because if the protests aren't armed, they're not going to accomplish anything. There will be no change if the wealthy class isn't made to live in fear of the public.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Strike power is real power

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

True, but in America, you're far more likely to get an armed protest than a general strike.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Sign a strike card generalstrikeus.com

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Elect Luigi as President

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Other people actually giving a damn enough to do something other than post about it. I protested in the past and absolutely nobody gave a shit and it had zero effect. I don't even think the protest was covered on the news.

I suspect that for any average American (or even a single digit percentage of them) to bother getting involved things are going to have to get extremely bad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I volunteer to be a part of the barrier troops for the 1%ers, politicians, CEOs, landlords, and employers. These people should all drafted for front line combat. It's their nation after all. Not mine, which is painfully obvious as I am forced to be exploited by all of these people for the privilege of living in their country.

I just want them to be good patriots and for them to die for their country. No retreat! No surrender. Not a single step backwards while I'm on watch. Or else...

I've heard each CEO is worth 500+ times the amount of working class people. Shouldnt need to many of those super soldiers to win every battle right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

The street outside my house is a county road, I don't think anybody is gonna see me for awhile.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm waiting for the 2A nutjobs to realize this is the moment they've been fantasizing about their entire pathetic lives.

Guess I shouldn't hold out for them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They are cowards. Trump being their man is enough to keep them in line.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Spent their lives toting big guns, but all they ever really wanted was a big man to call Daddy.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (4 children)

When republicans realize the massive fuck up they created and join the protest as well. Otherwise no protest will matter. You'd need a Luigi miracle realistically

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

literally anyone asks me to set up my grill at the protest. I'm down.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Probably: getting laid off due to collapsing economy.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

He invades Canada.

Sorry yall but I left America so I'm hoping you can sort out your own shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I need to get:

An M40 gas mask and spectacle insert

A bullet-resistant helmet

A burner phone

That's about it, really.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

Chronic pain and non-typical sensory needs will pretty much forever keep me from marching or protesting. That and the number of times I've been "disrupted" or "inconvenienced" because "that's the point of protest and if you don't get that then you're clearly part of the problem", only to have nothing change in the long run after said protest, I'm not willing to put my limited physical and mental resources on the line for "maybes" and "hopefullys".

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Protesting accomplishes very little (I won't say nothing) so I'm gonna go with... nothing, I'm gonna continue using my time better.

Speaking as a former longtime activist.

Go meet people and form communities, working groups, whatever. If going to a protest makes you feel better go nuts.

But the actual work is done outside the protests. If you want to do something useful, find that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've been to protests; and I've volunteered for political campaigns. The second actually flipped a (US House) seat from red to blue (obviously the work of many people; I'm not thinking I was the deciding factor but it was a close election). The first left me with a pink hat and no noticeable change in how elected leaders acted.

I need to be convinced the protest will achieve measurable changes; otherwise I'll spend my time looking for the upcoming elections where there are close enough margins to feel my actions make a difference.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

protesting is where you meet these communities and working groups.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah that's the only part I consider useful

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Many years ago, I formed the opinion that protests rarely accomplish anything useful. If the government has decided to pass a particular bill, build a dam, cut costs or whatever, people often respond by protesting. Usually, the bill is passed, the dam is built and costs are cut regardless. The way I see it, protesting gives people a chance to feel like they’ve done their part, while the government does what they wants anyway. From the perspective of the government, it’s useful to allow people to have a channel where they can safely vent their anger. If you make protests illegal, people will form a resistance and start a guerrilla war, and that never ends well.

There are notable exceptions too, so not all protests end up being useless. It’s just that the probabilities aren’t in our favor. You proposed other forms of political activism, and I totally agree.

To me, all of this is rather theoretical, because I’ve never actually participated in any of this. Instead, I’ve just observed these events from the outside, while you’ve seen it from the inside. I’m really curious to know if agree or disagree with these thoughts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I formed the opinion that protests rarely accomplish anything useful.

Mass Protests in China (which were probably illegal btw) may have contributed in the CCP recinding the "Zero Covid" policy.

So maybe there were 99 other protests before that did nothing, but even if out of every 100 protests has one that did something, it's still worth it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Protests are great for bringing issues to light. They can make people and groups visible to garner support. They also take a long period of time to be effective, because people have to understand and find a way to relate to thr message.

All of the shit the current administration are doing are blatantly illegal and protests won't address that because the people who can do something about it are complicit and the morons who voted for this are getting what they wanted. They may eventually regret it, but only when they are personally impacted.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

If Trump starts invading my country, I'll happily not only take to the streets, but I'll sign up for military training and defend it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

My wife would need to pass or literally lose the ability to keep a roof over our heads. Its pretty much leave the country or death for us in many of your scenarios.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Your *third "or" happened already.

(The violence one)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Talking Jan 6th?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

I'm not American, so probably not until he escalates his messing with other countries to the bombs and guns stage.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

If I was musk, I'd look you up with all my government knowledge and send the IRS after you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

A viable protest of decent size in my city that I can join. Even a few hundred people would be enough. Organized enough that I hear about it a week out and can shift my plans to be there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

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