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From Spain here, when we want to speak about USA people we use the term "yankee" or "gringo" rather than "american" cause our americans arent from USA, that terms are correct or mean other things?

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Being from the USA, I can confidently say “Yankee” is a term that is fairly neutral in meaning. People from the South states use it to refer to basically any American not from the South, and I get the sense people from the UK use it to refer to anyone from the USA.

In my experience, “Gringo” seems to be a term used by Spanish-speakers (even ones from North and South America) to refer to English speakers who think they’re better than everyone, so it appears to be a term with negative connotations

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In my experience (as a Brit), people generally only refer to Americans as Yanks in a mildly pejorative way or if we're taking the piss, otherwise it's Americans.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

Southerners are the same way. Nobody calls us yanks as a compliment

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Texan here. Yankee is definitely not a neutral word to refer to everyone from the USA. Some people down here will fight you over it, but most would just give you a confused look.

I've always understood gringo to mean white person, especially one who can't speak Spanish. The term is sometimes used in Mexican restaurants to let the staff know that you can't deal with too many jalapeños.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Do Southerners use Yankee pejoratively to refer to northerners?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

I'm afraid so. There are a lot of people still fighting our Civil War, the one that supposedly ended over 150 years ago. Even without those troglodytes, there is a distinct cultural difference between the North and South, as I think there is in many countries. We tend to rub each other the wrong way sometimes.

Old joke about the difference. Walk up to a Southerner's house, and they say, "can I help you?" Walk up to a Yankee's house, and it's, "whaddya want?"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes, since the civil war era.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Or as my husband's Southern-ass grandma called it, the "war of northern agression" 🙄

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

Reflexively I wanted to downvote that 😒

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

i believe Brits call Americans "yanks"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’m in Texas, so there is a lot of Mexican cultural exchange. Spanish was practically a second language in my public schools, and most people speak at least a little bit of spanglish.

When a Mexican calls an American a gringo, they’re not being nice. “Gringo” is typically used as a pejorative, to refer to a specific type of “mayo is too spicy and I’m afraid of people who have melatonin” white people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Those deeply sleeping bastards

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

we call them "estadunidense" which roughly translates to "usian". usians tend not to like it.

but, like, you call yourself after the entire continent, am i supposed to take it seriously?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Being a native, a Yankee to me is a New Englander. My Spanish friend had to gently explain to me, “shut up, you’re all yanquis.”

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Being a native from The South, "Yankee" to me means anybody from the area above the Mason Dixon line. Full disclosure, I'm not proud to be from The South. However, I do find many Yankees to be at least a little bit strange. So, the designation stands in my head.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Given that you're the native, you should gently explain to the colonial that they are the ones who are wrong.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just say "idiots." Source: USA citizen.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

No no, he has a point...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

You can say USAmerican or US (as an adjective, e.g. US government) as a neutral demonym. "Yankee" and "gringo" have pejorative connotations, although I'm not Latin American so I don't know what the connotations are among LatAm Spanish speakers. Also, my understanding of the word "gringo" as someone who lives in neither of the Americas is that it refers to specifically white people, not USAmericans in general. I'm not sure if I've understood the usage of the term correctly, but if other people have the same understanding, they may get confused if you call eg a Black USAmerican a gringo.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

In America, yankee means people from a particular part of America. But we use it here in Australia to mean any American. It's especially fun when people from the south (that is…the south of the country America, not from the continent of South America) take offence at the term IMO.

We also use "seppo" which is an Australian shortening slang of "septic", which is rhyming slang (of the kind used in both Australia and London, England) that comes via "septic tank" via "yank".

Gringo seems strange to me. I thought that was a predominantly Latin American term for white people, and would apply equally well to Americans as Canadians as Australians as (of particular relevance to someone from Spain) English…but only the white of each, so it would seem to me it shouldn't work as synonymous with "American" because it excludes African Americans, Asian Americans, etc. But I'm not Spanish or Latin American, so I might just be misunderstanding the word.

Edit: what yank means depending on where you are (allegedly):

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Hispanic here, I grew up using “gringo” specifically for people from the U.S. despite skin tone.

Canadians are “Canadiense”, English are “Ingles” but United States? “Estadounidense”? It’s sort of like saying “United Statian” but arguably more “correct/proper”

Gringo is just much faster/easier to say.

That being said this can vary a little from one Latin-American country to another.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Seppo, septic tank, yank. Love it! Cockney rhyming slang strikes again?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

Australian rhyming slang in this case, but yeah, it functions in much the same way as Cockney.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Burros como o caralho is Portuguese for USAians.

It translates to something like dumb as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago

Dumbfuckistan has a certain ring to it when you put it that way.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (3 children)

In Brazil, we use USians or Statesians

I used the second one on an academic paper and it went through.

I NEVER use "American", because

America no es solo USA, papá esto es desde el Tierra del Fuego hasta el Canada

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (6 children)

It's a weird lacuna of the English language, there's no official word for estadounidense.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

In Italian we have an equivalent, Statunitensi, but Americani is probably used more often to mean the same thing

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Call them murican. Everyone gets it, even the usa-ians

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

German here, most of the time I say "US-American"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (4 children)

In the USA, Yankee refers to mainly northeast US, including the New York City area. Western Americans would be neutral about being called that and you might piss off some southerners.

My exposure to the term gringo has mainly been that it refers to white Americans. I don't know if you would call a black American gringo or how they would accept it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I prefer the formal name in spanish of estadounidense (united-statistian) to American.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Its my understanding that in Spanish, "American" refers to anyone from the Americas. In some languages/countries, the Americas are taught as 1 continent (Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, Antarctica, and America), so a person from any country in the Americas would be called "American".

In most English speaking countries, we are taught that there are 7 continents, and north and south America are separate continents. In that context, you wouldn't really use a term to refer to people from both continents. It's similar to how, as a spaniard, I could not call you "eurasian", i would just say "european". In English, you would then have to refer to people as either "north american" or "south american".

In practice, we do refer to people from south America as "south american", but north america usually gets divided into "central american" and "caribbean", which only leaves the US, Canada, and Mexico.

People from Mexico and Canada have obvious demonyms, while the USA does not. "Gringo" also applies to Canadians (and it's specifically referring to non-spanish speaking european americans), so it doesn't really work as a demonym. "Yankee" doesn't really work, either, because it only applies to a subset of people from the US, so it's similar to calling everyone from Great Britain "English".

I haven't met any primarily English speaking residents of the americas with any problem with people from the US being called "american".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm USAian. (just identifying for this thread, i don't call myself that)

would "gringo" include Black USAians? Asian USAians? Spain-born USAians?

from my understanding of "gringo", that doesn't seem to include non-white USAians. Most English monolingual USAians think that means "white guy".

a lot of gen z USAians might not know the word Yankee as a term for USAians. if speaking to them, you might have to explain it's not the baseball team.

maybe it's better to stick with "USAians". it's never been used but it's easy to figure out. other possible choices are:

  • Statesians
  • USAliens
  • USAmericans
  • Staters
  • Stater Tots (re: tater tots)
  • USticles

better yet, call each of us by the state we're each from. that's the safest bet. you know all our 50 state names right? and their official demonyms? 🤣 kidding

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, reading this comment is really just reinforcing for me why we say American. Reading "USAien" over and over again hurts my head.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Not too sure about gringo but I know yankee is correct, I hear that one a lot from folks I know in the UK.

There's some weird linguistic drift where in the southern US, we call northerners yankees, even though in the rest of the world we're all yankees. Now I'm curious how that started.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

That Southern US usage dates back to at least the US civil war in the 1860s.

But yankee was used to refer to at least some people in what is now the US as early as the 1660s.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately the USAians are so dominant in the region of the Americas that they've coopted the term American for most people. My Columbian friend hates when we refer to USAians as Americans because he says "hey we were here first" 😆. But unfortunately that's the way it is.

Yanks or Yankee Doodles is what we used to call them but they get rather upset these days when you call them that. I wouldn't call them gringos because it just sounds unnatural for a Brit to say that seriously.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

I like to look at it this way. The full name of Mexico is the United States of Mexico. But we still call them Mexicans.

It’s totally okay to call people from the United States of America as Americans. Everyone knows what you mean anyways.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

We say "USA" for the country and "US-American" for the people. Those arrogantly misusing the name of the continent can get rekt.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

This probably isn’t helpful for referring to all Americans but in the U.S., we use whatever state/regjon within the United States a person is from as the demonym. So, someone from California would be Californian, someone from Texas would be Texan. For a regional example, someone from the Northeast would be a New Englander.

For most of the history of the Republic, the states viewed themselves sort of like EU countries do now: independent states in America that united. It probably wasn’t until the World Wars that it changed.

It can get more complicated, unfortunately. Native Americans would probably use their tribal name instead of the state, for instance. But that’s why we don’t have a demonym and everyone has resorted to USian or USAian on message boards.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Gringo and yankee are both fine. However, it's most correct to refer to people from the USA by their birth state.

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