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submitted 22 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Using firefox but concerned now

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Edit 2/28: It seems there is no general consensus if we should switch and/or to what.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 29 minutes ago

Firefox. And Thunderbird. And donate to Mozilla.

Don't really see the point in using a fork that, by the time you boil it down, just takes Firefox's work and then releases it later.

I want a Google and Apple alternative and I'd rather support it at the top of the chain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 minutes ago

Gnome browser, I’d use ladybird but it’s not ready yet

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Not sure what you mean by Zen being a skin. Its a fork in the same way Librewolf and Waterfox are forks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

As of late using konqueror, it quite bs-less

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

My issue is that while i am concerned about privacy, i’m more concerned with security patching. And none of these smaller browsers have the resources to turn around security fixes as quickly as firefox or chrome.

Firefox is the least of the concerns as long as we have the config options to disable anything deemed not privacy-respecting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Falkon, because it's fully integrated to KDE. Though I wish an actual Qt web browser running Gecko (or Servo, maybe one day) existed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I use firefox and am actively looking to change to something, potentially librewolf.

Edit: just installed librewolf. it's super clean and I'm glad I got it. replaced firefox almost instantly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I like librewolf but for me video is so incredibly slow. Is anyone else having this issue?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Still Firefox. Every time Mozilla does anything the entire privacy community goes insane. The terms of use they published seem entirely benign, and the only thing anyone can actually point to is the "direction being worrisome". Well, I'll get worried when they update the terms to be actually onerous. Everything even possibly annoying can be disabled, and it's still the only browser engine offering competition against Chrome ruling the web.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t see how you could find the terms not concerning and their removal of stating they don’t sell data

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

What in the terms is concerning? They still have the bulk of the language in the old data privacy guarantee as well. This seems like they just got a more circumspect legal department who wants to cover their ass.

It's always been the case that Mozilla could decide to just make Firefox suck ass. Again, I'll be worried when they actually change the terms to something unacceptable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It’s easy you just don’t worry too much about it. Is this a completely dumbass, reality avoidant coping strategy? You be the judge

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

I'm a very recent linux convert, coming from windows where I was using Vivaldi and I quite like it. But... are there reasons to switch to something else?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

I use Librewolf as my daily driver, however it breaks a lot of websites. We had to purchase plane tickets yesterday and to use regular Firefox.

I was super hyped for Ladybird but there was this weird thing regarding pronouns on their docs (last year?) and no matter the outcome, I just decided to not follow it anymore.

I have Chromium installed for things that break even on regular Firefox and for comparing websites when I need.

On mobile (grapheneOS), I am currently using Firefox Nightly, I think because it was the only one I was able to install extensions from custom repositories, I am not sure if that's still the case. I know I can (and should use) Vanadium, but I always miss my FF extensions when I do it. I play a lot of things so I love when I am automatically redirected from Fandom to a Breeze wiki instance, for example.

I never tried any other browsers of the list, and honestly I am very curious on the differences between Librewolf and Waterfox. Wasn't able to do the research by myself yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Using a firefox derivative I dont think is a good option as it will always be behind on security updates.... I guess I am going to wait until the Orion Beta / software comes to Linux which was announced recently. Orion is a WebKit based browser that is on iphone / mac

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I think there is a generaal consensus to say it's not ARC

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

great point

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

I moved to LibreWolf back when Mozilla announced AI features

I appreciate its privacy-focused approach

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Everything is just a skin of either Chrome or Firefox. Until recently, all browser on iPhone were a skin of Safari. Ladybird is the exception.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Zen Browser I love it :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

Librewolf & waterfox are fantastic. Zen is interesting but it takes some work if you are used to firefox/Librewolf. Ladybird isn't out yet 🫠

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Firefox. Google removed a valuable addon from their store without justifiable reason and kept it removed because there's not sufficient backlash.

The addon is AdNauseam. It's an improvement on uBlock Origin that clicks ads in addition to hiding them.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Firefox. Read the new statements on their website and the Full diff of the pull request. Not concerned at all.

Edit: pumped for ladybird, but its gonna be a few years until that is finished

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Same. I'm not worried, just confused by the new language. It seems unnecessary, but I could end up being flat wrong.

I wish Mozilla would refocus on improving Firefox instead of the AI nonsense they've pursued lately. They havent been perfect, but if i'm going to give any faceless entity the benefit of the doubt, it's Mozilla.

That said, i want the forks to thrive. Librewolf is pretty good. I might check out Pale Moon again to see what has(n't) changed.

Waterfox is also good from what i remember. I used a build of it with KDE global menu support on OpenSuse for years, and i was happy with it the whole time.

RIP TenFourFox. Hopefully a new fork will emerge for powerpc and other retro computers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I read the new language to mean: they are going to record your input streams and feed them to AI/LLM - thereby recording your previously private info that they used to discard and protect. Up to you, I use Chrome because it integrates well with the gmail account I've used for 25+ years and I appreciate the "login anywhere and get your same setup" functionality, as well as the ability to nuke remote login sessions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

You can login with firefox and have the same setup anywhere as well. it's really convenient to share tabs between mobile and workstation

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Been using zen for a few days with ublock, no issues so far but I might go back to librewolf soon even though it feels less modern. It just feels safer, idk tbh

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Firefox with Arkenfox. I'm not going to help the Chromium monopoly. The changes suck, but oh the hell well.

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