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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Well you know what they say...what doesn't kill you makes you have fewer cells that produce antibodies.

[–] phoenixz 7 points 2 hours ago

Bye bye Texans, it was not nice knowing ya'll

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 hours ago

And when the Great Corruption has settled over the land, and permeated the very foundations of reality itself, then shall the Lord of All rise from the rot and ruin, spread his arms wide to reclaim all his children.

May Grandpa nurgle bless everyone of them

[–] [email protected] 53 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (4 children)

We are careening toward the "end-game" for the rampant anti-intellectualism, anti-science, anti-critical thinking mind virus that plagued this country for at least the past 80 years.

This is what happens when you condition people for nearly a century, to get angry and defensive when someone who's more versed on a subject tries to teach them something (or god forbid, correct them). It has become a kneejerk reaction for so many Americans (mostly conservatives). They are so insecure that they view any type of education as a direct insult to them or some stupid bullshit like that. Like deep down, they know how ignorant they are, but for some reason they'd prefer to stay that way, so anyone who challenges that (regardless of how pure the motive), is a "smug piece of shit talking down to them."

And instead of even retaining what the person said, let alone learning it, they become even more radicalized against... well, reality.

I truly have no idea how something like this can ever be fixed at this level. We're talking over 50 million people give or take tens of millions (unsure how many have regrets).

And this is nation-ending shit.

Edit: Slightly related, but something I just thought about... Imagine if we ever have a prion-based pandemic (if that's possible?). That could straight up be the end of humankind. Prions are terrifying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 minutes ago (1 children)

Well said, extremely on point. I'm just curious about your view on the timeframe - you'd say this started in the 40s or earlier? In my mind it was more around the 60s, together with the rise of neoliberalism

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 minutes ago

To be honest, I just threw a number out there without bothering to do the math... I guess I was thinking post-WW2, but yeah it could have been slightly later.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

This is what happens when you construct a society around screwing everyone else over while preaching cooperation. People stop trusting everything

[–] [email protected] 1 points 41 minutes ago

Yeah, the US government is so well known for "preaching cooperation". What a fucking joke.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It's a simple problem, the lack of trust; and a relatively simple fix.

But you will have to abandon liberalism, capitalism, and all such tools of the rich that only exist to oppress the poor. While those systems of oppression exist, anti intellectualism is a natural defense mechanism.

There's a reason black folks in the US tend not to trust doctors, a good one, one of the best. It's the same reason native Americans tend not to trust the law, immigrants tend not to call police even if they're legal, and smart poor people don't trust vaccines. It's all the same reason, all the same cause, even with different incidents from that cause.

And you can't fight it and keep the systems that spawned it, it is impossible.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

Prion based pandemic is entirely possible.

I anticipate prions becoming a part of biological warfare in the coming years.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Measles can cause immune amnesia, meaning your immune system forgets past illnesses and will have to go through initial sicknesses again.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yup. It's why so many died, not from measles, but from other diseases in the 3-5 years after they had measles. IIRC they only really worked this out in the last 5-10 years because of the amount of data to comb through.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 minutes ago

Chickenpox, mmr viruses is deadly to adults. Ever seen a adult get chickenpox, the poxes actually hurt more than it itches

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 hours ago (8 children)

It'll continue to spread, as well. Last Friday, someone with contagious measles spent hours touring 2 Texas campuses, hours in college bars and restaurants, and hours in crowded tourist attractions. Next Friday, one of those colleges starts spring break - and it takes 2 weeks for the rash to start showing up. Some of those college students will have caught measles and will go on spring break, where they'll spread measles to other spring breakers. Three weeks from now, there'll be outbreaks in every state in the Union.

If you weren't vaxxed, you were under-vaxxed, not sure if you got vaxxed, or think the vax might not have taken, now it's an excellent time to get vaxxed.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It depends on how badly we've fallen under herd immunity, but it does seem likely.

You can catch measles by entering a room, such as a classroom, where another student had measles two hours before.

Unvaccinated people are going to pay for the ignorance of their parents real soon.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Unvaccinated, immunocompromised and babies under 2 years old are at risk. Vaccination is a collective effort to protect the most vulnerable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

People born after 1957 and vaxxed before 1967 (vax was less effective), people who only got a single shot until the mid-70's (accidentally under-vaxxed), immune compromised/suppressed ...

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

Measles parties is the stupidest thing I heard. It is not chickenpox (although even chickenpox instead of vaccine causes risk of having shingles once you get older), it can cause serious health issues and even death.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Russia definitely tries to exploit this weakness but the underlying cause is the American obsession with eugenics as a cure to disease

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Sorry, was this meant to a different comment? I don't like the move Hegseth did, but I'm confused how this relates to measles.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

The chickenpox vaccine is relatively recent, and chickenpox parties were a good way to inoculate children who get only mild symptoms and very little danger from the disease compared to adults.

Nowadays, vaccines are 100% the best defense.

Measles is so much worse and it has never been a good idea to purposely subject yourself to that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I know, that's what my parents did and I needed shingles vaccine.

I'm happy the vaccine is available for my kids and they don't have to worry about shingles when they are older.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Chicken pox parties were a thing in the 70s and 80s. I think that’s before they had a vaccine? I don’t remember measles parties being a thing though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

My parents tried to get me sick in the 70s, never caught it. Then I got hit with chicken pox when I was 16 and it fucked me royal, still have scars. Be damned sure I got my shingles vax though!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

No shit, chicken pox is not particularly serious compared to fucking measles. These people are idiots

[–] [email protected] 1 points 30 minutes ago

I mean conservatives were advertising covid parties in 2020...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

For little ones, no big deal. For teens or older, it's godawful. Easily the worst sickness of my entire life.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (6 children)

mortality rate of 3% for unvaccinated kids.

gonna be a lot of depression-era grieving going on.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 hours ago

Measles wipes your immune system as well. You'll be having a miserable next decade or longer getting sick from everything again.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

People focus on mortality too while failing to account for the sorts of lifelong disabilities viruses like these cause when you do survive them. Absolutely sickening.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

On the topic on non-mortal cases, this CDC page says the hospitalization rate for 2025 has been 20% (30% for <5 year olds)

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago

Can't wait to see conservative morons saying "hurr durr 3% isn't even that high of a percent"

[–] [email protected] 81 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

as always the price is paid by those without a choice

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