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Thomas Preston, C. O. Johnson distinguished professor of political science at Washington State University, said in an interview Friday that Baumgartner’s position was “shameful” and the administration’s actions that morning were “disturbing.”

“It’s just an utterly disgraceful comment, and it seems that very few Republicans have any sort of courage or fortitude to actually stand up to what is clearly just a vile and disgraceful performance that we saw today in the White House,” Preston said.

Preston characterized the mineral rights proposal as grossly transactional – pay to use Trump’s fire hose or he’ll let Ukraine burn down – and ultimately a “smokescreen” meant to give Trump an excuse to pull out of Ukraine altogether. He argued acquiring the minerals is significantly more uncertain than Trump has claimed and that there appear to be few guarantees for the security for Ukrainians if they sign a deal.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Who the fuck is Baumgartner?

I am assuming some corrupt American?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Republican Congressman from E. WA state. Yes, a corrupt American, one of the majority in the corrupt Congress. https://baumgartner.house.gov/about

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

What a fucking idiot. Some degenerate from what seems like provincial Washington state is making calls about the leadership of Ukraine?

We should send his family to Pokrovsk (a key frontline town in Donetsk oblast) to do logistics volunteer work.

Hell, they can even come to my apartment in Kyiv. While it's safe here, I have a feeling they are not going to enjoy daily shahed OWA strike warnings that happen in and around midnight or regular getting ballistic strike warnings at 4 am (and hearing takedowns of said shaheds and ballistic missiles during the night). Or seeing that the building down the street recently got hit my debris from a shahed takedown.

[–] ryper 27 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Just to be clear, the "diplomatic meltdown" was mainly by Trump and Vance, not Zelenskyy, right?

Asked whether the U.S. had itself gone back on its commitments by demanding compensation for aid that was freely given, Baumgartner was unequivocal.

“Be that as it may, (Ukraine has) now twice been ready to sign an agreement and twice backed out at the last second,” Baumgartner said. “And then you had this bizarre descent into public grievance, an argument in the White House in front of the American public, that’s not advantageous to either side.”

Baumgartner doesn't even deny that the US is "demanding compensation for aid that was freely given" but he's upset that Zelenskyy isn't jumping to pay up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

Just to be clear, the "diplomatic meltdown" was mainly by Trump and Vance, not Zelenskyy, right?

I couldn't even watch the interaction to the end. I have absolutely no idea how he was so calm about it. I guess I would have been shot by the secret service for trying to strangle Trump or Vance.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

Sure, lets just pretend that it is normal for a US Government to dictate how other countries democratically elected Leaders are chosen and at what terms they have to resign themselfes from their Position, without any regards to said countries peoples will or democratic proceedings.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 hours ago

Please don’t give this sort of fascist talking points the light of day

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 hours ago

donald trump should resign after such an embarrassing performance. ‘Voters should demand it’ - also bum gardener tehehe

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago

This is what a russian asset looks like.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

"Congressman Michael Baumgartner is currently serving his first term in the U.S. House of Representatives where he represents the people of Washington State’s 5th Congressional District." https://baumgartner.house.gov/about

He's a MAGA bootlicker and is unfit for office. What an embarrassment to our nation he is.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 12 hours ago

It very much feels like all the American politicians getting any significant news coverage, now, are an embarrassment to the country, and the world.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Who cares what this dumb fuck, green, redneck has to say? It’s not like he’s the leader of Ukraine. The people of Ukraine overwhelmingly support their President.

Unlike the US, where our President has +5 penalty roll to any diplomacy because he’s literally that stupid.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 13 hours ago

Well that's another guy to add to the list of people that need to go. Thanks for pointing yourself out.