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[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago (9 children)

With a potential for an american invasion on the table, I wouldn't want to cancel that deal without another similar plane deal lined up

[–] [email protected] 20 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

the potential for an invasion is precisely the reason you don't want the f-35 around. that warbird is the most technologically dependent device ever crafted for warfare. it is deeply vulnerable to an adversary with the knowledge simply bricking it remotely and you're kidding yourself if you don't think the us military wouldn't brick all of them. the better plan is to train with prior gen jets and asymmetric combat using drones.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago

Don't forget the Gripen. There's a great offer for domestic production still on the table, and it's the asymmetric stall-an-invasion fighter.

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Put the funds from that cancellation toward a contract with Ukraine for advanced drone technology and the capacity to manufacture it domestically.

[–] puppinstuff 3 points 16 hours ago

If they were serious about invasions they wouldn’t deliver. We’re better off with Gripens IMO but she’s an even more expensive option.

[–] humanspiral 1 points 14 hours ago

Immediate cancel. After attitude readjustment, accept bids from Lockheed and others.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think an invasion could realistically happen. 1. Need congress to authorize a war that would impact U.S. soil and 2. need the military which isn't under trumps thumb

But making sure they have another deal is smart, probably delay the f-35, and get maybe the euro fighter or so. Solid planes and itd be horrible for U.S. to lose a military contract in NA to an EU. Get the military industrial conplex pissed at trump.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the President has a 30 day authority to use the military anywhere in the world. After 30 days he needs congressional authority. He can get a second 30 days while that's going on and if Congress says no then he has to remove all troops within a final 30 day period.

If Congress never says anything then he effectively has a blank check.

Your best bet would actually be to run TV Ads trying to get the military to refuse the order. I think a large percentage actually would. I also think he's going to invade Mexico first and if he does invade Canada he'll do it like the Russians did Ukraine. (They told their troops it was a training mission and then only told them at the border that it was real)

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[–] engene 0 points 8 hours ago

Let’s do it and replace them with MiGs 🀨

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (6 children)

Every country knows the US changes faces faster than my ex girlfriend.

At this point other countries just need to deal with 4 years of this bullshit.

If Trump were to take over the government like Hitler did, which looks to be the case, only then would countries start looking at dropping the USA.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (11 children)

What would they do instead? Get a bunch of J-35s, like Egypt?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Typhoon/EF2000/Rafale. Not stealthy, but still a superb multi role aircraft.

(Yes, I know Rafale is technically not the same aircraft, but it sprang from the same initial plans, so it's pretty close)

#buyeuropean, I guess

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

From what I understand, those are fine if you're going up against enemies that don't have stealth (and all the ancillary technologies that go with it).

The general military analysis is that the F-35 and J-35 are superior to anything else in the air and are similar in capabilities to each other. Conflicts between them will come down to who can make more of them faster. Conflicts between one of them and an older generation fighter seems to be, they'll blow you up before you can see them.

EU better get cracking and start making stealth planes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Probably be some laid off government contractors soon with stealth expertise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Already leaked the info to Russia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Tempest and FCAS are supposed to be coming.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Switzerland too!

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