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As investment, I bought this, instead of stocks. Any ideas on what to do with it?

Location:

  • 75km (1hr) to a big international airport. Airport has direct flights to most EU capitals (2-4hr flights)
  • 50km to city center
  • 25km from nearest large residential area (500,000+ population)
  • 5km from massive organized industrial area (government supports factories here)
  • 35km from a rich residential area
  • 1km away from the village (its old and mostly depopulated) and animal husbandry area

Access:

  • There is public transportation, but one has to walk 1.5km after leaving the bus.
  • There is no direct road access to the land. You have to walk like 200m after leaving your car.
  • 1km road to here is non-asphalt and its a bit bumpy ride. When it rains, it gets bad here. It rains rarely

It is quite peaceful and quiet there. You can hear interesting bird sounds sometimes. You see no buildings, no cars and no humans anywhere near you when you're there, which feels great imo. You notice the air quality after you leave your car. I personally absolutely would want to live here for a while

Ideas

  • Trying to clarify this rn, but I think I can make $120-160/yr/decare from leasing the land to a farmer. Land is 25 decares
  • "Unique co-living opportunity with vegan food & yoga sessions" In other words, remote work / digital nomad village for people who want to work REALLY remotely :) I'd have to arrange electricity (solar panels and powerbanks), internet, toilet, shower, water, tents, mattresses/pillows/sheets, food, drinking water. (Though I don't know what people will do when they're bored here? Any ideas? Meditation would get boring after some point)
  • Sadly location isn't touristic, but it is 1hr flight away from extremely touristic areas. One of those areas, a city, was the most visited city in the world a few years ago.
  • I've met a few volunteers and they seemed quite willing to volunteer for whatever I decide to do here (if I do anything). For those unfamiliar: WWOOF and Workaway

Also- Any suggestions on where I should ask this question on the internet?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Research what you are allowed to do with that land. In my country you are not allowed to simply buy agricultural land and start building stuff on it and that is the case in most civilized countries.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Start up a workers cooperative and a collectivized farm, you could also do the digital nomad stuff and make a worker owned digital syndicate. Turn it into a leftist center where theory flows like water and discussion of revolution flows through the air like the songs of the workers >:3

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Ah. Someone found my field of fucks. See that I had none left to give.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Plant a shtload of trees and bushes, let it go 'wild', put cottages in between, spaced so they don't see each other.

A 'back to nature' retreat around the corner.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

It can actually be a lot of work to do this. Researching species appropriate to the biome and removing invasive ones

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Plant a lot of trees. Be the owner of a forest. Just be proud.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

First of all, what the fuck, how are people paying 1.2k lease per nectar and are still able to make a profit of it (this is possible if you plant vegetables, but most farmers dont do vegetables).

Secondly, if you are willing to maybe invest a little bit more I would try to market this as a "DIY" garden. Basically what you do is, plant the field with vegetables, divide the field into smaller sections and then people pay you for having the opportunity to raise and and harvest their own vegetables. Harvest everything you can't sell by yourself and sell it to your local supermarket.

Pros:

  • Lots of cash. If you just charge people like 20$/month for e.g. 50m2 (which is quite a lot) that would come down to 1000$ per month assuming that you are able to rent all sections to other people (which will devinetively not happen). Even if you only rent out 50% its still 500$ per month.

  • Not very work intensive. You dont really have to do that much. Just regularly check on the field and care for all parts that are not rented out.

Cons:

  • Further investments are needed. You would have to supply the field with water. The best way would be to buy a cheap forklift and some containers, fill them up with water and drive it there. If you already have a car that can tow trailers you could also use that to supply the field.

  • High instability: You can't really calculate how this will work out, because you can realistically only calculate this for this and maybe the next year. This is also highly dependent on how gods you can reach the field.

The field may be a bit off for this concept, but if you manage to market this to the city population (not necessarily the city population, but more of the urban population that live in denser areas) you can make quite a lot of cash of it. I think with the uprise of uncertaintys about the availability of food and maybe declining supply chains this might get more relevant in the future. For this to work I would suggest to start small. Just seed clover on the rest of the field that you dont plan to use. This has the advantage, that you dont loose soil due to erosion, but you also allow the soil to regenerate and ultimatively clover is able to fixate nitrogen in the soil which is OBE of the most important nutrients for growing anything. If you let the clover grow for 2 years it can fixate iirc up to 200kg/N/acre which is quite a lot, bit this really depends on a lot of different factors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I appreciate your advice

First of all, what the fuck, how are people paying 1.2k lease per nectar and are still able to make a profit of it (this is possible if you plant vegetables, but most farmers dont do vegetables).

I am trying to clarify that atm. In my research, I saw wildly different numbers from $30 to $160 per 1000 m2

Even if you only rent out 50% its still 500$ per month

$20/mo per 50m2 is $5K.. which is nice like you said

I would try to market this as a “DIY” garden.

There are actually a lot of projects like that. They unofficially partition the land into 500 m2 parts, arrange water and electricity (some don't arrange that either), and they sell. Thy call them hobby gardens. Do you happen to know about them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I am trying to clarify that atm. In my research, I saw wildly different numbers from $30 to $160 per 1000 m2

It is absolutely possible, that people pay this much. I have seen this in other regions too. What I meant is, that I still don't get how people are making profits of this. Just assuming, that you get 200$/T of wheat and are able to harvest 10t/ha, which is a lot, you still only made 800$ of a nectar if land. This does not include the costs for all the machinery and fuel. Also at a price of 1.6k/ha it is dumb to not buy it instead. If you calculate this on a time scale of 20 years you would pay 32k in lease, so to make this profitable you could buy the land up to a price of 3.2$/m2 which is quite a lot.

There are actually a lot of projects like that. They unofficially partition the land into 500 m2 parts, arrange water and electricity (some don't arrange that either), and they sell. Thy call them hobby gardens. Do you happen to know about them?

The difference here is, that the people are forced to do everything by themselves. In my scenario people are paying you for the work of planting the crops and maybe additionally taking care of them. The thing you mentioned is also more like, that people can build shacks on it etc, since 500m2 is way to much to eat all of it that you can grow there. It also takes quite a lot of work to maintain all of this. These small sections have the advantage of the people being able to maintain it without much effort.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Looks like a farm, maybe plant something?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Put potato in the ground, makes more potatos, shit's crazy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Even better, cut potato up and put pieces in ground, makes LOTS more potatoes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You have no idea. Non organic planted potato's have an average yield of 40t/ha. So this field would give you about 100t of potato's. And trust me, you can't do this manually and even with machines this takes a shit load of time. Without any experience in farming and without equipment, which is needed (you dont need machines to plant and harvest, because they are waaay to expensive) this is still quite a big investment. Potato's also drain the soils quite a lot so you need to have a rotation of at least a few years. But what do you do in the years where you dont plant potatos?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Can confirm, when I was a kid my parents wanted to build their dream house and bought 5 acres. Mom decided she wanted a 'garden', which wound up being a 40'x100' mini-farm, and the only machine we had was a tiller, all the rest was hard-as-shit manual labor ('Hey, good thing we had lots of kids!' was a common refrain from my mom). Kneeling or crawling around on your knees, often with rocks in the soil, bending over, digging around or pulling weeds at arm's reach, lots of standing up and kneeling down again, carrying a lot of heavy shit, dealing with bugs, thorns, nettles, and every other goddamned thing, etc. Extremely do not recommend, and that was only 0.03ha.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Between the years you eat potatos

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Build a large wall around the entire perimeter of the property.

Construct a tall stone tower in the middle of the property and paint it completely matt black.

Poison the land around the tower, so nothing, not even grass can grow.

Have packs of wild, feral dogs roam the property.

Dress in dark grey robes, and spend the rest of your days on the top of the tower, screaming obscenities at any passers-by, or shaking your fist angryly at the sky.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Move the stone wall out each night and slowly claim more land like an insidious virus

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Make sure you use organic short half life poisons. Don't poison the surrounding areas with rainwater runoff just because you want to live in a nightmarish hellscape.

Desolate responsibly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

You also need to move the stone fence out each night to expand your domain

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

*Mount a fiery red spotlight at the top of the tower and move the beam randomly around the property in case of hobbits

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish I had enough money to buy 25 acres without a clear idea of what to do with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This isn't 25 acres. Its 25 decacres which is about 6 acres or 2.5ha or 25.000m2

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

Whoops. Point still stands.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Farm things?

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Plant potatoes. Charge rich families to come out and harvest potatoes as a "total farm experience". Sell them as a "rustic handgrown" crop.

Take the profit and buy a shit ton of meth and smoke until your heart explodes. Die with a smile as you escape late stage capitalism ✨️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

This is also what I suggested (not exactly but about the same concept). Biggest problem might be, that its maybe a bit far off from the next city.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

Do nothing, watch nature claim it back.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago

Sell it and remember that you first figure out what you want and then you buy the suitable land for it.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (11 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Vineyards around here have set up wedding venues. People pay stupid amounts of money for weddings. If you can set up a few areas that are particularly photogenic you'd be good. Much of the land you could just leave to nature, which could be a huge part of the appeal. Make a few trails and like 2-3 buildings for the wedding and reception.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What's the legality of that land?

Where I live there's no way a plot of land is suited for both farming and a Hotel.

If you build something in a place where residential/commercial buildings are not allowed you are in for a lot of troubles.

If the weather provides the safest bet for the most profit would probably be plant some easy trees or some plant that would not need a lot of caring, and just sell the products.

That for money. If I were you and I had money to throw I would just built a retire House for myself and collect my returns in peace of mind and health. But then again, residential buildings may not be allowed there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

These "laws" are just manmade constructs, I only trust the word of god. (And god told me to build a compound and fill it with devotees and guns)

[–] [email protected] 150 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Plant some dang trees for starters, unless it's only going to be land used for farming.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Dark-sky site?

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