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Summary

A security breach involving Trump’s national security team occurred when leaked Signal group chat revealed that Trump-appointed officials accidentally shared classified U.S. war plans with journalist Jeffrey Goldberg.

The chat included top officials like Pete Hegseth, JD Vance, Marco Rubio, and National Security Advisor Mike Waltz.

This breach raises concerns about using unclassified apps for sensitive data, violating laws on classified information and record retention.

The incident highlights the risks of appointing unqualified individuals to critical roles, echoing broader patterns of mismanagement during Trump's administration.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their most dramatic blunder so far.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago

Blunders we know about. How many are they covering up?

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago

It all makes sense when you accept that trump is a foreign agent, and, at that, too fucking dumb to realize he’s a foreign agent.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 21 hours ago

He hired amateurs because he already ran though the establishment republicans in his first term. There's no one left but amateurs. Plus these new guys will follow orders and not balk at doing illegal shit, because they're loyalists first and foremost.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s not a blunder. They put dumb yes men in high places that wouldn’t say no to their plans of dismantling the united state and placing it into the third world, leaving a power and social vacuum that Russia is wedging itself into a position to fill. They want dumb, incompetent people making terrible decisions. This is all part of the plan.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

They want dumb, incompetent people making terrible decisions. This is all part of the plan.

Yes, and the more incompetent, the better. But their incompetence has a purpose. They want to give absolute bullshit justifications for their dumb actions, as a loyalty test. Those who swallow them whole and ask for more get promoted, those who apply logic and resist get impeached/primaried/pushed out by any means necessary.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To be clear, Hegseth (the drunken amateur) isn't the same as Michael Waltz, the guy who invited Goldberg to the chat.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/

https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2025/03/jeffrey-goldberg-group-chat-broke-internet/682161/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Waltz

Waltz, unlike Hegseth, is not a random idiot, he definitely knows better.

"Waltz received four Bronze Stars while serving in the Special Forces during multiple combat tours in Afghanistan, the Middle East, and Africa. He served in the Bush administration as a defense policy director in the Pentagon and as counterterrorism advisor to Vice President Dick Cheney."

As far as Hegseth (or any of the rest of them for that matter) was concerned, the list was all vetted and pre-approved people.

The fact that NONE of them actually vetted the list before saying anything speaks volumes.

They went down the line asking "Hey, who else in your department needs to be a contact on this?" and they all sounded off one by one, except Goldberg.

Nobody thought to ask "Hey, J.G., we haven't heard from you yet. In fact, wait, who is J.G.?"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

To me, it is likely that Waltz intended to invite a different JG, and fat-fingered it. So, if a journalist is looking for a big scoop, I guess they should change their name to Victor Palmer, or Vanessa Potter, and work their way into Trump's DMs?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Arnold Palmer might work too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Good thing he doesn't keep pizza places in his contact list. Imagine inviting Hungry Howie to your encrypted war chat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Seems much more likely.

Jamieson Greer? United States Trade Representative.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

This is a fair assessment, but all of them should know better than using Signal for this kind of thing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago

...so far. This is their most dramatic blunder so far.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago

I've read that Hitler intentionally gave government-departments overlapping authority, so that they'd be in turf-wars, so whichever one "lost" could then be shut-down..

It wasn't incompetence, it was intentional: a means for force-dismantling government's function.

IF the point of having the incapable running the different departments .. is so that total-dictatorship later becomes "justified", then it is a strategem, not a mistake.

& differentiating between unconscious-strategems vs conscious ones ..

.. as an example of unconscious-tactics, I'm now certain that Hamas's strategem of using the lives of Palestine as bait, to get Israel to demonstrate its nihilism & sadism & narcissism & machiavellianism ( etc ) on, ..

.. so that in future, the entire-region wouldn't care what "deterrent" Israel had, .. that such a huge percentage of the region's population would be committed to annihilating Israel at ANY cost, .. that Israel's annihilation becomes inevitable..

.. was completely unconscious.

But it is effective.

I don't bet ANYthing on Israel existing, as a country, by 2029, now.

Trying to sort-out the .. bucket-of-vomit, which is what geopolitics now is .. with all its unconscious-strategems & insane tactics & sickening "values" ..

I'm betting that Trump will use the consequences-of-his-people's-incompetence to "justify" greater, & more-complete, highjacking of the US of A.

I absolutely do not believe it'll result in the Dems regaining the US:

that opportunity was thrown-away with the election that Biden wouldn't get out of, until it was too late to save.

  1. differentiating the convenient-to-the-left-belief isn't journalism, it is just more of the filter-bubble that cost the Dems the 2024 election.

  2. seeing such things not with the superiority/contempt of the left, but rather with the .. how is this going to be dealt with and adapted-to by the ruling-regime, how are they going to use this to further their highjacking? would be much closer to journalism.

  3. humans are mixtures of unconsciousness & consciousness, & much of our "tactics" and "strategy" is actually just unconscious-instinct & feelings-motivated stuff, so it doesn't matter whether it is unconscious or conscious, it doesn't matter whether it is contempted by so-and-so, or whether some caste/class of people are condescending about it, in Natural Selection, it only matters if it works. Pay attention to if it's viable-enough to continue taking our world down, not to what the upper-middle-class-left are saying while denigrating it.

( feel free to contempt everything I said here, but I'm sooo damn tired of filter-bubble making-believing substituting for the survival-stuff that humankind needs .. & every mistake made by anybody can be changed in significance by circumstance,

so the whole "they're failing, & we're going to be their 'daddy' when they do" narrative that much of the upper-middle-class left that I've seen is identifying in.. is just more ignoring/denying, with a price-tag counted in lives later this decade.

Pragmatism would be a good thing, now, & "it's only a won-game when it's completely finished" would also be good to live by. )

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

I don't know how much intent there was in hiring jackasses, that one always seemed more like hiring the richest guy who was in a vaguely related industry and at least acted like one of the Trumpets.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

The one thing thay might ultimately save us is their virtuosic incompetence. They have been so busy purging anyone with knowledge, they havent realized that they've given the gift of competence to their opposition. Every competent person who has been replaced with a MAGA Moron Traitor, is now an avowed enemy of the administration, and knows more about the government than they do.

In addition, many of those left behind hate what MAGA is doing to their agencies, and are perfect candidates for leaks, intelligence, resistance, sabotage, etc.

They've forgotten that it's better to have your enemies in your own tent pissing out, than outside pissing in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The most dramatic blunder yet. Tomorrow there'll be a bigger one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

At least the US is making itself increasingly incompetent IE not a threat

[–] Showroom7561 1 points 1 day ago

intentionally

blunder

Was it intentional or a mistake? 🧐

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

This is one thing where I'm happy to see them blundering.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Ah yes the blunder of using a cell phone app to plan a genocide.

The genocide itself is fine tho! No problem! Everybody agrees!!! \s

Gross.