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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Religion is for three kinds of people:

Fools

Liars

Disobedient children with fools or liars as parents

Tolerance of religion is a paradox as every religion is intolerant of other religions.

Yes Buddhism too.

Respect is earned. Trust is earned.

Religion deserves neither.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Religion has nothing to do with God, even if you believed God exists, then since God is omnipresent you can have a relationship with God from anywhere. Why would you need to gather with a group of people and have middle men priest who claim to speak on behalf of God. Religions are about power, control, elitism and us vs them tribalism. If there was a god, he'd be disgusted by the barbaric things done by religious people in his name.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Religion is not necessarily the same as religious institutions. Christianity is quite an outlier with its heavy centralization in the case of Catholicism, but there is many denominations of Christianity that are not adhering to a centralized institution.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

It doesn't necessarily mean they become atheists; some switch religions. While in the West religion is in overall decline, in the global south, Christian evangelicals are on the rise. This is especially the case in Brazil where Catholicism is on decline but evangelicals are growing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I were to guess why its probably because religious communities always tend to lean into hateful rhetoric against "others".

People realize the closer you are to religion the further from God you feel as you couldn't believe that judgement of other humans is wise from an all knowing being if it exists.

Then the internet of course gives so many alternate sane opinions for consumption and exposure readily at your fingertips.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ex-Roman Catholic here. I was never particularly devout but this is what drove me away from the church once and for all. I have never seen people preach about God’s love with so much hate in their hearts.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

"Donald Trump was sent by God to stop abortions"

Is when I realized, yes, I do actually hate organized religion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

If I changed Jesus name to Bob and worshipped Bob in the exact same way id be called insane.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

If your religion is somehow linked to the place you were born it's not your religion. You are indoctrinated.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Religon is brain cancer.

It's a control mechanism from some of the earliest human societies, and today it is a dangerous tool that was just left lying around for any con man to take advantage of.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I can’t find any sources for this now, but a while back I read an article that basically said in the 1500s (roughly) people were starting to turn against the rich holding the bulk of the wealth. So the rich met up with some priests over a tankard of mead and came up with the idea that the church should say the rich deserved their wealth.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

The south were pissed the north judged them for slavery, so they schismed the Baptist church to the southern Baptist church, where the only difference is that slavery was a commandment from God, and black people deserved it becausw of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham?wprov=sfla1

It's weird how many religions tell you to obey priests without question, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Well that might explain christianity but what about other religions like Hindu, buddhism etc.

The idea of religion is different there and it's more of a way of life rather than believing in a supreme god.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The Marquis de Condorcet wrote about the evils of Christianity back in the 1790s.

He wrote about how it was a tool of oppression, not just of the person, but of the mind and spirit.

And nothing has changed in the last 200 years.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (6 children)

That is weird to me because Jesus repeatedly condemned the rich. He even violently kicked them out of temples by whipping them and flipping tables. Jesus even said the wealthy will never enter into heaven. Jesus was essentially a proto-communist

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jesus also didn't proclaim himself to be the literal son of God, nor a part of God. That was invented by the churches some 300 years later. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

Both Judaism and Christianity had their scriptures altered over time, serving political goals of the scholar's class. This is why Islam puts such a strong focus preserving the Quran exactly as it was revealed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you please expound upon that point, re: Jesus didn’t proclaim himself to be the literal son of God. Never heard that before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure. So in Islam we believe that God and the creation are seperate. All Prophets (peace be upon them) are humans, who have been given prophethood for their virtuous character. Any powers outside the realm of human capacities were granted by God to aid their mission, but it wasn't their inherent powers.

For a longer read on this from an Islamic perspective i found this article: https://www.reviewofreligions.org/27744/jesus-son-of-god-historical-context-long-read/

As for the development of the Christian idea that Jesus would be the son of God. This is a Greek/Roman idea that was pushed to dominance around the fourth century. Notable is the Council of Nicae, where it was agreed that the concept of Trinity (with Jesus as son of God and some abstract holy spirit) should be the used. As for the reason why, it is likely that the Trinity was chosen to make Christianity more palatable to Polytheists, despite the rejection of polytheism and embrace of monotheism being fundamental to the Abrahamic religions. This is also why the concept is strongly rejected by Jews and Muslims. However also Nontrinitarian Christians exist to this day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea#Outcomes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontrinitarian#History

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That’s an interesting take. Having been raised Christian, but now mostly agnostic, it’s a view I had not heard before. Thanks for sharing this.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

If counting Christianity then it will be a lot higher. I'm baptised and stuff like that, but that was just tradition. I never believed in a god.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Monotheism was a mistake! The last save point was hermeticism, it's going to take us ages to get to the enlightenment again. 😮‍💨

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Excuse me, is hermeticism not a monotheistic philosophy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Nope, technically it's henotheistic. Hermeticism doesn't deny the existence of others gods, but does believe in one supreme God.

https://arnemancy.com/articles/hermeticism/monotheism-in-hermetism/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Well, during the enlightenment it existed in a Christian context. I do not see how one can disavow monotheism and accept hermericism, since other gods in it are hardly important to say the least.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 3 days ago (25 children)

So long as they’re not moving on to a new one, good. Religion is a plague on human society. We don’t need it holding us back.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago

Kirsten Lesage, Kelsey Jo Starr, and William Miner titled this erroneously. The title should be:

#Children are learning cults are bad, and their parents tried to indoctrinate them against their will

[–] Punchshark 45 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Christianity is basically just a pedophile ring at this point

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 days ago (3 children)

That's a bit unfair to the people who are in just for the homophobia

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

And they need your money!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Whats funny is when they leave their childhood one and go to another. The new one seems better because they don't know enough about it.

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