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[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

A superpower by definition cannot really be a rogue state. A "rogue state" is a political label applied by dominant powers to states that defy the international order. For example Iran or North Korea are considered rogue states because they defy the international order. What is "the international order"?

Well, it's the combination post-WW2 institutions created by none other than the US. The UN, IMF, NATO, etc. They set the norms of "legitimate" behavior. When the US participates in military interventions, economic sanctions, and other aggressive actions it's framed as upholding "rules-based order" whereas identical actions by weaker states get them condemned with the label as "rogue states".

To call the US a rogue state is to misunderstand power. Hegemony is the ability to define reality, not just defy it. In this way, the US has always been a rogue state in the sense that it does whatever it wants regardless of the international norms. I mean, just look at the mid 1900s and its actions in Latin America. It was involved in about a dozen states toppling governments and supporting military dictatorships- including sponsoring the genocide of natives in Guatemala.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, that's true. I'm more concerned with whether US citizens, whose past administrations more or less invented the term, can now recognize for themselves that they are no longer on the side of the "good guys" with this administration at all, but are now the "terrorists" themselves - the very thing that past US administrations denounced (at the time, of course, already completely speciously).

Edit: Trump himself has even brought the term back to a certain extent - and he is not only the personification of evil for the governments of other countries. I just want to make it clear that it's the same here as with almost everything he does: it's projection - whatever he accuses others of, he and his corrupt gang are the ones doing it.

Edit 2: Please don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this because I believe that Europe, for example, would be much better - I'm saying it because I'm from Germany and we have the history that you all know. It's not too late to put a stop to Trump and his Nazi colleagues, but it will take civil resistance. If there is no vehement resistance, I fear that history will repeat itself. Nobody in their right mind can want that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Myself and and a good number of people I know are very aware and horrified. Unfortunately this isn't necessarily the case outside of my social bubble. Since major media outlets aren't doing a great job, a lot of people are trying to spread the real news in a grassroots style.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

I own guns now. I never did or even considered it until the election results in November.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Leftists, of course. Liberals will continue to be in denial for the foreseeable future. Conservatives just dgaf.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Not all liberals. But yeah most. Or maybe I'm more leftist than I thought I was....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Liberals will claim that they are furious at what's going on and then proceed to vote for another capitalist who perpetuates what's going on, all while refusing to listen to Socialists. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Sad but True.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

We're inundated with propaganda. Our media is state run. All for-profit media is state run.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

Our media is state run. All for-profit media is state run

Could you elaborate on that take?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

It's covered up yeah, most of the republicans are too dumb to realize it.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Americans for the most part are only dimly aware there's an outside world in the first place. The amount of covering up that needs to be done is minimal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It figures it takes someone calling themselves "CanadaPlus" to actually see the actual question and answer it.

Everyone else is answering about how aware Americans are about what's happening, but the question was about whether Americans were aware of how the world perceived the US. The answer, of course, is "no, Americans have no idea because Americans consume almost no non-American media".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

This kind of question coming up a lot is why I chose the name, haha.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Many Americans are unaware of the problems due to media censorship.

However they're creating so many problems that even those with blinders on are seeing this shit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

We been a rogue state for 100 years

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Depends. Everyone who voted against Trump knows this and it’s probably why they did but most non voters and maga are still ignorant.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I see the American media as softballing fascism, or they're just outright complicit.

No one will call shit what it is, and every fucking thing in the news needs to be both-sides-ed.

This doesn't help with the less educated grasping these basic concepts, nor does the massive stigmatization of intelligence and critical thinking, nor does the attacks on institutional education.

There's laws constantly being passed in the form of 'vouchers' to drain public school funds and funnel American kids into Christian indoctrination, and our public schools are now dramatically underfunded.

So I guess I understand why more than half the population just straight up ignores politics. because reality here is really depressing.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Those of us who aren't Team Orange or completely oblivious know, I think. An appalling number of people are completely disconnected from what's happening, and a disgusting number either don't care or love it.

I lost the last shred of faith I had in the American people with this election. I delight in the suffering of every shithead that either voted Trump, 3rd party, or not at all. ESPECIALLY the protest voters, conservative minorities, and rural idiots stupid enough to think Trump cared about them or was somehow a better because they didn't like something the Biden administration did. My schadenfreude levels are hitting new, bitter peaks there.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Aware and trying to let others in my circle that are unaware become aware.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

To some 20%-30% of the country 'patriot' means 'whites only'. Honestly, if your so dedicated to being a patriotic American you can't stand up to a government doing everything it can to destroy America, you're just an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

There was never a point in US history that it was not a rogue state. If you believe there’s a period it wasn’t, you simply do not know enough history about the time period you’re referring to.

Or more likely, you believe white lives to be more valuable, and you take offense now that the US is directing their usual behavior towards white Europeans.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some of us are aware. We tend to also be the ones who know this only ends in some kind of revolution. No dictator has even chosen to give up power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

No dictator has even chosen to give up power.

Taiwan's did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taiwan_(1945%E2%80%93present)

It was actually neat. The "hybrid" between dictatorial state funding and a democratic business environment all but established TSMC.

Ukraine is sort of a dictatorship now, but Zelensky will probably give up power.

But, uh, we don't talk about them here I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Based on the pro Trump people in my life, I've seen two classes:

  • Those in denial and ignorant in general (don't really follow the news), who don't believe for example that Trump is deporting people without due process, and blatantly violating the law and constitution.

  • Those who are so sucked into the MAGA own-the-libs circle-jerk that even when presented with the facts and proof of Trump doing something blatantly illegal, will usually retort with something like "oh so when the Democrats do it it's okay, but now the Trump is doing it it's wrong??? You fucking communist!"

Both I believe are the result of being fed far right propaganda by YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, etc. It's the only explanation I have. These aren't random people I don't know. These are people I love and have known my whole life.

It hurts to see, and I don't see a way to help them that doesn't involve ruining those relationships. I avoid talking about politics around them because I know it's going to make me resent them, and I don't want that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

Note, that this isn't actually the question. It's not whether Americans are aware of what's happening, it's about whether Americans are aware of how the rest of the world perceives the US.

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