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[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago

I asked this before but it might have been buried. Can I run this in a web browser because when I go to the site it wants me to download.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I already have tuta and libreoffice

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

How the uptime with Tuta these days? Was hearing some negative reviews about extended outages a while back.

I want to leave Proton, but I fear for the day I need a 2FA code and I can't get it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What’s wrong with proton?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Damn... so I dont need to switch. Thanks a lot.

I felt like things doesnt matter, because they donated a lot to other projects and stuff, which a trumpist would never do and instead would start with a worse service for more money.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

@envoy No additional "analysis" by some random guy on internet can change what the CEO wrote and did. I saw him admire trump. I saw him use company support account for his personal fight. This really needs something a bit stronger than an "analysis" to regain some trust.

[–] AlienContact2049 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I am trying to outrun evil techbros but it's impossible...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Self host email, It's not thaylt hard and its good for everyone to make small email servers a thing again

[–] AlienContact2049 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Follow-up question how much does it cost you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

10-20 a year for a domain name.

dynamic dns from freedns is free

Email server is a free laptop with a broken screen

I set it up with dockermail server in an afternoon. They have good docs, it was easy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 24 minutes ago

The thing keeping me from self hosted email is despite working in the tech field for 8 years, I still can't seem to wrap my head around SSL certs, especially trying to use one from Let's Encrypt. I don't know why.

[–] AlienContact2049 1 points 59 minutes ago
[–] AlienContact2049 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I have been thinking about it but I wasn’t sure if it would be secure enough. But I will look into it. I have my own domain through a host with a site that has email but it’s for a business I am trying to get going so I don’t want to use that for personal shit.

I will do some research about it. I think I have the skills to set it up I just don’t know how to keep it secured.

Do you run it on a machine at home or do you host it with a provider?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Runs on laptop with broken screen.

The software for email server is multiple decades old, I don't worry about it. Also email isn't really secure. If you have real secrets, you need to use end to end encryption on top.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

Sure, but if I can dodge one by simply switching email hosts, why not?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

I, personally, didn't have any concern so far.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Well, I wouldn't like AI in any communication client of mine. Perhaps if it's local to my box I would like that, but this solution really seems cloud based, meaning one could have an AI crawling over one's data, to do whatever it wants with it. And local solutions usually are not as "good" as the cloud ones for whatever reason (hardware availability, data, and so on):

for users on less powerful hardware, the development team has integrated NVIDIA’s confidential computing to keep any remote processing secure. Rest assured, those who prefer to skip AI services can continue using Thunderbird without these extras.

There's still tuta, or even /e/ (now a days murena), which still seem safer privacy wise than this new thunderbird option.

I'm really hoping for a "librewolf" kind of fork oriented to privacy, and betterbird doesn't offer anything like that. The phoenix project has a safer user config for both firefox and thunderbird, but that doesn't get rid of components (well perhaps it could possibly turn them off, though to make sure they better get ripped at build time).

Does any one know if this new TB service would offer caldav and carddav services as well? I didn't see anything on stalwart advertisement.

[–] danielquinn 20 points 1 day ago

This is great news, and I might be tempted to use it if I had some reassurance that the mail servers (and the organisation that controls them) weren't subject to U.S. jurisdiction.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (60 children)

Ok, this part is pretty cool:

Thunderbird Assist will also be available. This experimental feature, developed in collaboration with Flower AI, offers optional artificial intelligence functionalities for users who want them while also addressing privacy concerns head-on. On devices robust enough to handle AI models locally, Thunderbird Assist processes everything on the user’s own machine.

However, for users on less powerful hardware, the development team has integrated NVIDIA’s confidential computing to keep any remote processing secure. Rest assured, those who prefer to skip AI services can continue using Thunderbird without these extras.

I've been unwilling to touch cloud based AI, much less expose my emails to it as there's no guarantee of privacy, but being able to run a local model allows you the functionality without the risk. Haven't used Thunderbird in years, but this is tempting me to give it another shot.

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