I usually try to until the other person shows me that there's no reason to be.
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Then just stop responding to them.
Your reasoning matches with some of the most hostile people out there because they have alarms that are very easy to trip. So virtually everyone "shows them there's no reason to be" kind.
For example, someone disagrees with you? They must be far too stupid to understand what you're writing or intentionally missing the point just to attack you, so there's no reason to be kind to them.
offtopic:
Test to see if from here it is possile to engage the friendica server of @utopiarte and @requeteche.
btw and ontopic:
thx @jesuisatirebitpickup, this now came over, no idea why the inicial post by search didn't show up, some Lemmy/friendica issue, or maybe the it's because squeet.me is on the dev branch.
(upss, nope 2024.12 database version 1576/1576)
Also, your mention wasn't notified, this just appeared in the stream. Let's do a general reshare so this is ported over to diaspora too.
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Speaking past each other is IMO the biggest source of friction and division on the fediverse.
I honestly feel like I can do better in this area. Thanks for the post. Gives me something to think about.
Love this post!
We also need people sharing their niche interests and creating discussion... Reddit thrives on these small communities that only find an accessible entrypoint on their platform.
The only problem is lemmy seems to be hostile to certain niches specifically ones closer to spiritual realted stuff
And just to make this clear to idiots who want to be idiots SPIRITUALITY IS NOT RELIGON
I have mysteriously vanished for like 2 or so months now (which is a good thing, please take breaks from the internet every once in a while), I don't really remember NOT being kind here.
And this post reminds me of why Lemmy is a good place to begin with.
Okay I agree, so let's start from Linux related any post, tell them if somebody asks a problem don't tell them just install mint , or how one is crazy because they are facing the problems in Linux or if you are not using Linux what idiot are you. I stopped participating because
- Linux dude bros are just idiots troubling me
- I can't find content which is though not niche is just is plain not news or Linux
- It's very confusing to use fedverse as I don't know of i can go all subs via my boost app or do i need something else , if so where to access them.
So let's make it ACCESSIBLE, NON DERAGORTY FOR ANON LINUX USERS ALSO
Yeah try telling people here to be kind
This place is still nicer then reddit but it's still got problems with a**hole users
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The ones that spam a certain viewpoint amd downvote people who disagree with them and I'm not talking about bigoted users who you should downvote as they want dystopia but users who have different viewpoints to them
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People who act like assholes if you don't share their holier-than-thou viewpoint that they try to enforce everywhere
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The users here who insist everyone here be atheists, I'm not atheist nor am I religous (I also have a dislike for organised religons) but I still do dislike those kinds of users
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The people here who act like like a**holes when you critique something or give feedback
I'm sure there's more I'm missing but those are what I remember from the top of my head that I dislike about certain lemmy users and why I think not everyone here is capable of being kind
I disagree with your premise.
It should be "The best thing that you can do for humanity is to be kind".
Seriously. We're living in a time when fascism is in an upswing and at least one religious leader has publicly called empathy a sin. Kindness and empathy are rebellious acts.
I can get behind the Kindness Rebellion.
Fuck you!
I wish you pleasant sexual encounters as well, most esteemed stranger.
Best I can do is rewind.
I'll add: "be supportive and helpful if you can, and just shut up if you can't".
Fediverse is sometimes suffering from the same kind of people that Linux has - "oh you have a problem? Well, here's the GitHub repo and a project Wiki, figure it out".
Yeah, if I don't have the answer I usually just stop in to say I hope someone more knowledgeable can chime in and wish them luck.
That way the post at least gets a little engagement for visibility. But the "rtfm" attitude, while understandable, can be really miserable to be met with when you're out of your depth doing your best to learn about something new and need some help from another actual human.
We all begrudge the automated phone systems that try to reduce the need for human beings by helping people with simple problems, and that approach to helping people exists for good reason but it does feel like sometimes we're too eager to leave people to figure things out by themselves just because it's a lot of work to actually help them, human to human. None of us enjoy being treated that way when we need help.
This applies to real life as well. Results may vary.
So I can't be myself?
No. But you can work on yourself to become a nicer, better person and we will support you all the way. Then, you will be allow to be yourself.
With love,
Pseudo
On the one hand, yes, yes, yes, absolutely.
On the other hand, way too often people are absolutely vile here and nobody sticks up for themselves or for others. Really a shame that r-word-it bullshit behavior is often times totally accepted and approved and even rewarded here.
When I see small, I see potential. More people know each other which fosters genuine relationships and understanding, ingredients missing from the toxic environments of the big social networks.
My ex used to call me a very small dude with a big city attitude. She didn't mean it as a compliment, but I took it as one.
The fediverse is just a beautiful place to be you. It feels calm, relaxed, intellectual and full of supportive people. It's a refreshiong alternative to the sprawling and sometimes impersonal nature of vast social networks.
One thing we should all agree on, we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.
The thing that I appreciated most about Lemmy and my transition from Reddit is how cordial everyone has been. Even if a comment is taken out of context, people tend not to jump down each others throat and assume the worst, or make bad faith arguments full of fallacies. I've had legitimate back and forths with people, something that basically never happens on Reddit.
This place is becoming very Reddit, if you post anything that deviates from someone’s beliefs they call you names and insult your intelligence. So many people can’t have a debate or discussion without jumping to personal attacks and hate. It’s really disheartening. I love political debate but there’s no such thing anymore, only name calling
With the aggravated issue of moderators being far less ""professional"" here than in Reddit. At least in some big reddit communities there was a big admin team that tried to keep things more or less professional (not that they would always achieved that but they tried). Here mod teams are very small and mods mostly just got their position by just being here first, so I have found out a lot of very biased moderation and mods just using mod tools and position of authority to defend their own particular opinions.
If you are debating something with a moderator alt account, or with a moderator friend you are in for some unfairness going your way. At least that have been my experience trying to debate even very small deviations from a Community main political stance.
I arrived at LEMMY after what I think we very optimistically called the Reddit Collapse. We wish. And I had toe in LEMMY and a few others at Reddit.
Recently with their abusively patronizing redesigning and gamification and just ugly bullshit, I can’t stomach Reddit at all. So LEMMY grows increasingly important, not just to me but to folks who haven’t yet even heard of it.
So, I’ll just say thanks for your post here. I have, I confess, engaged with a couple bullies on LEMMY and I always try to say… I don’t like to do this on LEMMY— and I say that precisely for the reasons you mention.
And as you encourage: I will try to be kinder, even in when feeling… hmm… less than kind.
I disagree, yes being kind is very important but even more important is people engaging and upvoting comments.
Reddit was great because of what happened in the comment section, not the headliners, and I see very little voting engagement even in active posts.
Remember, it's free to do and it encourages others to engage as well. But yea be kind too
Tell that to the people who make a dozen sockpuppet accounts to insult me just because I disagreed with them.
Second best thing you can go is to report unkind people.
Yeah, try reporting behavior mods themselves are aware and approve of LMAO 🤣
That is why the person made so many sockpuppet accounts. As soon as one was banned, they made another.
Everyone's been really nice as long as I don't touch anything political - then it becomes a fart sniffing smug fest.