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Holy shit, America, you are so fucked at this point.

America is a dumpster fire lol, they have all these "checks and balances" but then one guy can just make all the trade policy and land use decisions by decree. What even is the point of their congress

My body is not ready for the amount of alcohol and dancing I am going to force myself to take part in on the day this motherfucker dies and goes to hell.

Literally, the most destructive and evil human on the planet since Hitler. I can't wait until the worms get him. I kind of feel bad for them, but I guess it's part of the job.

A hundred years from now the planet will be in a pretty good shape, forests have been regrown and the seas will have been cleaned up and repopulated with fish, except for the US which is a giant hole. Not from bombs exploding, but from strip-mining the whole place for resources.

The USA will resemble Russia, China and Mordor.

My first thought. Seems appropriate.

Just fyi, I'm pointing out Trump's similarities to an evil villain. I'm not using this to agree. I'm very much against this, having grown up in the woods (practically raised by my local forest, as my mother was an awful drunk and single parent) and I spent most of my youth walking through the peace and quiet of the trees.

I grew up with my mother seeing nothing but my father in me, and was abused for it. Those trees gave me the shelter I needed and I would have been 100x more a mess if I didn't have them. So no. Don't take my fucking trees en masse.

March '23 Trump gave a soundbite for his billionaire bosses about building "Freedom Cities." Clear-cutting national forests, then signing an order that makes the area exempt from regulation? Sounds about right.

If they're coming for all federally governed land, indigenous reservations will be on the menu as well (always are).

Finally, a good move by Trump. Those trees are taking up incredible amounts of water. This is water that could be used for more productive things, like being mixed with Kool-aid powder on a hot day. Moreover, the trees emit large amounts of oxygen, a dangerous corrosive gas. Don't listen to liberals -- tree hugging is a dangerous activity that can lead to abrasions from all the bark.

If there's anything I learned from Dr. Seuss' "The Lorax", logging can lead to impressive industrial and commercial activity and has no downsides.

🙏🏼✝️🔯☯️🕉️ Gods of the universe that ever existed real or fictional Please hear our prayers and please peacefully take this man home. His destruction is too much for the good people of earth to bear. Please consider taking Putin and Netanyahu too Than You. Amen

I predict that any company that participates in destroying the parks will end up even worse off then Tesla. I've been a hiker my whole life and I've met a lot of retired military on the trail.

These are our forests. They belong to the US people. They're being stolen from us. For private profit of a few.

Gee, why wouldn't I want to cede my country to American management and become the 51st state? You guys are knocking it out of the park, no pun intended.

Uhm, why can he just decide this? Not part of his expertise or departement.

The absolute level of stupidity of this is ridiculous. Lumber mills are not designed for old growth trees in the modern era, so all these trees will not even become lumber. Logging has become very sustainable in recent decades. They farm trees and mill them when they reach the size that the machinery at the mills is optimized for. If we just cut down all the forests, the mills can't even process the logs even though it's better lumber. In reality, they'd just send the old growth logs to be ground for pulp which is a total waste. This video does a good job explaining it.

https://youtu.be/efs5-FCVWvg

Fuck. This kind of shit is why I feel the need for revenge on these people. They're slashing forests and impoverishing the population. It's not enough for them to lose an election. they need to pay

Fucking murder this fuck

didn't he say it would be like 0.5% of all federal land, or something.

Drill, drill, drill! Cut, cut, cut! Slash, slash, slash! Burn, burn, burn! You guys carry on I have to go golfing.

So I just want to chime in here as an outsider. From what I searched, national forests are different from national parks in that, extraction of natural resources from national forests is permitted for commercial and personal use.

Trump's order cites wildfire, insect and disease outbreak as the reason for this change (Biden also sought more logging to combat fire but apparently timber sales did not change much during his tenure). While I agree that forest management is important, Trump had also put tariffs on Canadian lumber and cut down jobs for national park workers. It's not hard to question if there are other motivations other than wildfire prevention in this context.

That is just... Insane. Incredibly sad.

Those are our national Forests, they don't belong to fascist billionaires like Trump and Musk! Resist, fight back, and let's tell these Nazis they can't strip our environment, government, healthcare and democracy to give tax breaks to rich people...

Cutting down old growth Forrest take 50 years to repair the area after its stopped. What a mess.

Trump is speedrunning to aim for the lowest biodiversity index in North America.

Maybe if we stop ridiculously subisidising corn everywhere, some that gets thrown away because we have way too much, we could replace a couple dozen sq km of corn fields with more sustainable agroforestry, and thereby massively increase our logging output, instead of yk, cutting down the last wildlife sanctuaries? Not holding my breath tho.

We get 30% of our lumber from Canada. This is the inevitable consequence of shutting our borders to trade via tariffs - if these policies stick around for four years, sure, we may bring some manufacturing home at great immediate cost, but we'll also be bringing home the environmental burdens of manufacturing (the negative externalities) which we've been pushing onto other countries and ignoring for decades. In the meantime, other countries have started to learn how to handle those externalities, like China's big push for solar power. In America, we've got an idiot who is rolling back worker safety, health and environmental protections, the list goes on. So even if these tariffs worked, we're going to be living in a less healthy place, all in the name of jobs...