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To any visitors to this thread from the future - yes, this was at the same time that Ukraine was engaged in a defensive war with Russia; and America was kicking out any foreigners it could while ruining the global economy with import taxes.
Crazy, sad times, these were.
Don't forget about the part where the US president floated the idea of selling all the gold in Fort Knox for Bitcoins. The word crazy isn't doing this timeline justice, imo.
tertiary syphilis, no?
Bold of you to assume the future will see this as the crazy times. I think its gonna be seen as the "when things still seemed fine" times.
!remindme a few centuries
Woo! We're getting eggs AND supporting Ukraine at the same time!
I have to wonder at the price of eggs, such that refrigerating and shipping them across an entire hemisphere is economically feasible. Wouldn't it make more sense to sell Ukrainian eggs in, like, Poland or Romania or Germany? And then sell Polish/Romanian/German eggs westward from there?
This seems less like "supporting Ukraine" and more like "spending a fortune on bulk shipping to avoid dealing with bird flu at home."
Canada doesn't really have the same kind of massive factory farming practices that the US does, and the bird flu problem is already far more contained. I think this is mostly a show of support for Ukraine kind of thing.
Unwashed eggs don't need to be refrigerated. I would assume any washing would be done in Canada, as we're basically the only ones who do it, along with the US.
Why The U.S. Chills Its Eggs And Most Of The World Doesn't
In some European countries, egg-laying hens are vaccinated against salmonella. In the U.S., vaccination is not required, but eggs must be washed and refrigerated from farm to store, and producers must follow a host of other safety measures.
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Another perk of consistent refrigeration is shelf life: It jumps from about 21 days to almost 50 days.
So egg washing provides two big benefits - eliminating the need for chickens to be vaccinated and extending their shelf-life. Which brings us back to time-to-market for a poorly regulated product that needs to travel nearly 5000 miles.
The second benefit is only one if you forget that unwashed eggs can be refeigerated as well. In fact, I get my eggs from the farmer the day they got layed and put them in the fridge.
The first benefit is that it's a tiny bit cheaper to produce, but the savings obviously don't end up with the customers, as egg prices indicate.
The second benefit is only one if you forget that unwashed eggs can be refeigerated as well.
But that still brings us back to the problem of long distance refrigerated delivery.
In fact, I get my eggs from the farmer the day they got layed and put them in the fridge.
Farmers living 5000 miles away?
The first benefit is that it’s a tiny bit cheaper to produce
How on earth is chicken farming in an active war zone cheaper than doing it closer to home?
I wasnt replying to any of those statements
Because Polish farmers are bitching about Ukrainian imports into Poland decreasing local prices
This appears to be the real hurdle to Ukrainian economic relief. We could be raising the standard of living across the entire region, rather than pitting Polish and Ukrainian farmers against one another in a free market squeeze.
That's true. But maybe they transform them before shipping them? Like powdered eggs or things like that?
Would definitely make more sense, from a transport perspective.
Ban eggs from US. They are chemically treated to destroy the protective layer. Most other countries don't do that, and their eggs don't even require fridge. .
edit. what's next? fluoride chicken, chlorine chicken.
They are washed and sanitized, there's nothing wrong with it.
It's basically a wash (heh) between here and the EU method. In the EU you guys can leave out your eggs at room temp, but they go bad quicker. In the US they last longer, but refrigeration is required
As an American, I've honestly only ever had an egg go bad maybe once in my life. Even after like three weeks in the fridge, they're still fine.
We don't even need to use fridge for our eggs due to the protective layer not being destroyed by chemicals. I consume about 30 eggs from same tray over 2 -3 weeks.
I was shocked when I saw my relatives in US putting eggs in the fridge. The whole tray taking up a huge chunk of space in fridge.
My investigation led to discovering how the compromised protective layer of US eggs can lead to them to go bad rapidly outside of fridge. I avoided home cooked eggs in US after that. Main concern was i have no idea how long they may have been outside fridge.
I suspect maybe the condition the US chicken is raised is probably extremely filthy, so the chance of germs is higher? so they prefer to use chemicals on eggs so they don't get sued, not take any chances. Or they store eggs for extremely long periods in storage before it eventually reach consumer? they probably have their reasons, businesses won't waste money on chemicals for no reason.
There were several other things, shell was different too, fragile and the egg yolk colour looks pale and different too, that i am not sure why. maybe different species of bird.
avoiding eggs because of this is silly, as so many types of food need refrigeration too. if you can’t trust someone to cook eggs within the 4 hour window after being removed from refrigeration, how can you trust them to not do the same with any meats or dairy?
actually forcing eggs to need refridgeration when they naturally don't need it, makes it super silly.
Imagine silly stuff like suddenly forcing all grain, rice, flour or peanuts, almond, nuts or bread or spices or salt (lol) or pepper to require refrigeration or they spoil in 4hrs.
meat is cooked well for long time or fried at high temp, i don't eat raw beef or half cooked chicken or pork, but I like half boiled eggs.
Dairy, i have experienced it smelling spoiled when opening it at home after purchase. I have no idea how long those eggs has been out at room temp, I mean, at every stage until they reached home and after. I have no idea if salmonella gives off smell after 4hrs. 4hrs is a silly short window.
The point is that meat and diary require refrigeration in my country too so it is not strange,silly to me but eggs like rice and flour and bread don't so it is strange,silly seeing eggs requires compulsory refrigeration in other country. 4hrs window is short.
I avoided those eggs, meaning I still ate but much less and only hard boiled, fried or well cooked and used in some other dishes.
Recently, I read US sells chlorinated chicken meat, which is banned in UK EU. it is really strange. Makes you wonder why. How filthy the meat production is to require chlorination swimming pool chemical treatments to get rid of germs while other countries don't. Why other countries don't do it but US needs to chlorinate chicken.
Maybe they keep chicken in storage for a very long time (stale) before reaching the consumer, so they require strong chemical treatments to preserve longer. no idea.
Actually it was originally a decoration thing. The American consumer wanted the eggs to look nicer, and the only way they could make the eggs look nicer was to strip the protective layer, making them the uniform single colour look seen. It’s also why they are more fragile.
Same, I've had month+ old eggs still good sooo I'm happy with our "chemically treated" eggs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ LMFAO
They last long enough in room temp and never had them go bad. I never really measured the max length of time, but I buy 30 at a time and eat 0-2 per day, 2 on most days. half boiled.
They can't last outside of the fridge because the US strips the protective layer from the shells...
Ukraine is at war, and they still have the ability to send eggs to canadia? is there anything Ukraine can't do?? #GoUkraine!
Canadia?
Yup
Make America Grovel Again
Now trump will have to get on his knees and beg for Ukrainian eggs via Canada with stiff tariffs on top. 5D chess.
We'll just switch to potatos and call them "freedom eggs" or something. 🙄
Yep. Don't raise your kids Republican, folks.
I'm so sick of potatoes. Why do potatoes get shoved down our throat for every single meal?
They're efficient foods. High calorie, cheap to produce, and still contain a good portion of your necessary nutrients.
It would be poetic if Ukraine gave eggs to Canada on the condition of not reselling it to the US, and make lifting it contingent on lifting weapons restrictions about using them in Russia.
Eggs for HIMARS missiles.
But as many as possible and then turn around and sell them to US at crazy high prices! Malicious Capitalism!
So USA is eating Turkey eggs, and Canada is eating Crane eggs?
Why do we buy US eggs. Ours cost $3.94CAD a dozen
Canada is a net importer of eggs. If they didn't import, prices would be higher
Don't have time to read this but does it say why our eggs are so cheap if we are only importing them from the us?
Our eggs Our cheap because most of the supply is domestic, and our domestic supply is stable. The Ukrainian supply is replacing the US supply that is no longer available, and is going to commercial buyers, not store shelves.
U.S. is the only country (until now) that was allowed to export eggs to Canada. It doesn't really say if they actually ever sent us any amount. I'm guessing that before the egg crisis down south, they sent them to Vancouver or places with no egg farmers near.
April 7th article for April 1st?
Now that's a flex.