I read just the other day that California is also planning to negotiate trade deals directly with other countries
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Thank fuck. This is the energy we actually need.
Yeah bro, I'm into it. The US had a good run, but every empire has to fall eventually.
Yeah, as a lifelong California resident I've thought about moving somewhere cheaper like Washington in the past few years... But I've stayed for this reason.
I believe we're going to vote on whether to discuss succession in 2028... Not sure how this will pan out, though.
https://www.kcra.com/article/california-ballot-initiative-independent-country/63536323
It will be a vote on whether to form a commission to look into the viability of existing as a separate country. I'll vote for it as a vote of no confidence in the federal government, but I know it will never happen. It will be bloody war leading to Balkanization or nothing.
I dunno about cheaper tbh...
Working there right now. I was originally going to work in cali but due to circumstances ended up here instead... Same company, different team, 30% pay cut pretax.
No state tax, but sales tax is 10+%, and groceries here are slightly higher than cali. Rent and utilities are the exact same as when I was in LA. A 1bd goes for 1300 for a shitty studio with only 200sqft, no stovetop + only a minifridge. The next jump is an actual 1bd but at 1.6k. I got lucky and found a 2bd for 2.5k which im splitting with a roommate, but that's not normally the case.
I looked at house prices and they're at 1.2m for most. Which is the same average prices I seen for both norcal and socal.
If anyone could it's the 5th(?) largest economy on the planet and the spot that make up most of our west coast.
Kind of makes me wonder, since by and large the 'blue' states pay into the fed more than they get and 'red' states are net leeches, how viable would it be for there to be a concerted "fuck off we we just won't play with you any more" to economically starve the rest of the states.
I read somewhere that the net payer / net payee numbers are pretty skewed by military bases - there are a lot more in red states, they go on the states' balance sheets as income from the feds, and it's not like the states have much of a choice in the matter. So economically starving some of those states might not be as cut and dry as it seems.
That being said, I'm all for giving it the ol' college try. This experiment is over, we had a ~~good~~ run, and now it's time for a national divorce.
This is all part of the planned destabilization and wealth capture unfortunately. All the heritage foundation / project 2025 people want this to happen
Edit: I don’t meant Gavin is in on it. I mean that the right wants this to happen
The world is a big place. Most would flee the US before choosing to become the vassal of a tech oligarch.
While that’s true, as far as I know at the moment, for the majority of people, the only way to “flee” the US is to seek asylum elsewhere, which is difficult, or to pursue immigration to another nation, which also requires basically getting a job there in advance. Otherwise you will still just be deported back to the US if you haven’t left through one of these means.
California! Uber alles!