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[–] [email protected] 135 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I'm not sure about elsewhere in the world, but daytime TV in the UK is full of programmes where people want to move house to somewhere a little nicer or chilled - whether it's to escape the rat race, bring up kids outside of a city, to retire, whatever. They have the strangest "contestants" though, like (and I'm pulling these from my arse but I doubt they're far from the truth) meeting Tarquin, 44, a part time artist; and Helena, 49, who volunteers at the local farmers market.

"Their budget is 1.2 million pounds"

what the actual fuck

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My (half serious) conclusion is the contestants like you describe are either the no-I'm-not-wealthy class of idiots that have simply come from money and don't realise that's not the norm, or they're drug dealers that found a skilled accountant.

[–] k0e3 8 points 2 months ago

I'm under the impression that these shows are designed to make regular people think one or more of the follwiing:

  • if you stay in the race long enough and work hard enough, you can attain the same thing

  • if you can't, you're a failure = go drown your sorrows by being a good consumer.

  • be unhappy with their situation and persuaded to blame minorities or the government.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeap, same thing with "find my dream house" shows in America. I think the major difference is that instead of the people being in their 40s, it's usually people in their 20's. The source of the funding is ultimately the same, rich parents. The likely difference is between trust fund kids in the US and just people whose parents have finally taken their much awaited dirt naps in the UK.

I think rich parents are basically a prerequisite to owning a home for anyone under 40 nowadays. I'm one of the only people in my friend group of people in their late 30s who owns a home, and that was due to what I consider a minor miracle.

I was lucky and bought an abandoned house from the bank for 30k after the last recession, and that was only possible because I got a loan I probably shouldn't have qualified for through USAA. So, still a bit of nepotism, but because my dad was in the service, not because he was wealthy.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The fake jobs are euphemisms for having a trust fund.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That, or having bought their first property long enough ago, and in the right place, that it's appreciated massively more than the place in the country that they've got their eye on. The property ladder is, possibly was, a thing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Still is, at least to an extent. Bought a house 10 years ago for $110k, and while I’ve paid down about $30k of that between my modest down payment and 10 years of mortgage payments, the house has appreciated ~2x, meaning that I could potentially bring a $100k down payment to a new property. Even with everything else appreciating in the meantime, that makes viable many more options than I would have had if those mortgage payments had been rent checks.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Same. I bought my house a year before the housing market went up. Paid 110,000, now my bank says it's worth 250,000.

Honestly, as cool as it is for me, that's just not fair to everyone else. We barely made enough for the 110k loan, and this house is barely big enough for everyone. No fucking way could we have gotten 250k in any sort of loan.

Also when I say barely I mean barely, the seller actually went down to 110 from 120 because that was the max we could get, and we knew him personally. So on top of the price spike, we actually couldn't afford our house, if I hadn't made friends with the guy previously.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, same thing with House Hunters in the US. Those made really good memes. "Stacy, 23, who is a professional whistler, and her husband, Joe, 25, a part time stick weigher, are looking for a more relaxed pace and a smaller, cozier home. Their budget is 7 million, and they're looking for no less than 3,000 sq meters"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Those are good shows to hate watch in a hotel when you don't have anything else to do.

Except for this one time. It was an African American family where a single working mom had to use the dinner table to get work done after hours, her mom lived with them and had to sleep in the same bed as the younger daughter, and the teenage boy had outgrown the length of his bed.

I can't make fun of that. This family needs a new house.

Next episode had a white family. Their biggest problems were that the kids didn't each have their own bathroom, and they didn't live close enough to the golf course. Now that's more like it.

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[–] HikingVet 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is that a Frank Lloyd Wright?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yup, thats Fallingwater in Pennsylvania. Its a museum now and you can take tours of it

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Despite subsequent repairs to the parapet, the cracks there periodically reappeared. Fallingwater's problems were so numerous that Edgar Sr. referred to it as "Rising Mildew".

This part never fails to amuse me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

lmao yeah thats great. Cantilever structures are interesting to look at, but boy would I not want to be in charge of maintenance on that

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Rising Mildew

This was my first thought upon processing wtf was happening in the pic. I mean, sure, that's neat. But also a nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think his general style was really good, how his buildings could look futuristic and naturalistic at the same time, but FLW kinda didn't give a shit about structural integrity or insulation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The interior is also very cramped for such a large structure. The surrounding land is gorgeous though.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The designer was fond of liminal space. He likes narrow hallways and sudden openings to big rooms. Personally, I was surprised by how low the ceiling is in most of the rooms. From the pictures, it looks taller and more imposing than it is IRL.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Yup, I believe it's Fallingwater

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

This is one of the reasons I hate and ignore all advertising. Commercials have NO IDEA who they are marketing to anymore. All I can think about when any commercial or advert plays is how fucking out of touch the company is to be showing the product getting used in a 26000 sq foot house EVERY TIME. I don't have a garage, I don't have a lawn, I don't have a basement, I dont have a house, I don't have a dog, I don't have kids because none of this shit is sustainable or affordable. What world are you marketing to you board rooms upon board rooms of assholes?

If a vacuum cleaner company wants to correctly advertise a vacuum to the masses, they would now have to have the commercial show a lonely man getting off of the night shift of his 3rd job, taking a bus back to his squalor closet of an apartment, and then passing out gazing at the vacuum which has been sitting unused in the corner of the bedroom for 8 months, because the only world where he has the time and energy to use it is in his fucking dreams.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

I don’t think Hollywood and advertising are out of touch, they know what they’re doing. They’re not just selling products, they’re selling an ideal. It’s about shaping how people see the world. For working-class viewers, it feels fake because it’s their reality being distorted. But for middle and upper-class audiences, it subtly shifts their perception, makes working-class life look manageable, maybe even confortable. They know it’s not 100% accurate, but they don’t realize how far off it is. That’s the real effect: it makes things look better than they are, and pushes people further out of touch without them realizing it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

How many Mercedes and Audis are actually sold vs the ridiculous amount of commercials they run? It really feels like people in this country are living in two different realities

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is one of the reasons nobody likes movies anymore. Hollywood is so disconnected from the struggle of the working class it’s just sad. The Oscar’s have become a joke

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You got me thinking over here.

Perhaps it's a two way street, and both sides have changed.

It used to be that people wanted to suspend their beliefs for an hour and a half and live in a fantasy. I feel like most people look more for reality and relatability in cinema these days, but Hollywood is still trying to provide the escape.

It's just not lining up.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Well of course they live there; that's one of Frank Lloyd Wright's worst designs. They're not going to live in one of his masterpieces, are they?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

When I was a kid growing up in the Middle East in the 80s and 90s I idolized the hollywood/US TV western lifestyle. They all seemed so effortlessly lavish and nice. All sitcom/domcom families had large homes and all the kids had their own rooms and those kids didn't need an allowance. They could get jobs like waitresses or paperboys that earned a half decent pay that allowed them to afford whatever the hell they wanted. I lived in Dubai they forbade all child labor. Even if those laws were ignored in some circumstances, they were generally quite strictly enforced. So unless you were a debt-slave camel jockey kid, you were not going to work at any job.

I legit thought that that was the reality of many people. Even young adult slackers with chronic unemployment issues still somehow had small houses bigger than any apartment I knew. Of course this was myth, and ever since the 2000s rolled along with nearly 40+ years of stagnant wages AND rising costs of everything else meant that that idea is dead.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Grew up in the ghetto of the US.

Would watch Fresh Prince and Family Matters and like "WOW look at that. Their house is so pristine. Everything looks new. Everyone has their own room. People sit at a dining table."

My house was dark, smelled funny, full of random junk and we'd have mattresses on the floor to fit a large family.

All my hood friends had the same experience. I had friends whose bedroom also their living rooms.

Now I have friends who have a lot of money. 6 figure incomes and everything. Their house is slightly better looking, but that's about it. Still full of stuff. Messy if you surprise them on a off day.

Average American is no longer the standard for quality living.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'm always sort of happy when I see realistic apartment situations. Like how Ruby Sunday on Dr. Who lives with her foster family as an adult.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Sopranos have a tidy house but they have a maid, when tony lives on his own, his house is littered with dirty laundry, cereal bowls, pizza boxes and tony isn’t wearing pants. I appreciated the realism of that show

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

What about the Atom Brick set? (3/4-Lego-scale bricks).

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

seriously. or they'll have some 25yo running the CIA or something.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Malcom in the middle had a realistic home.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Having a home in general isn't exactly realistic anymore

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Things really have changed.

Rosanne was about a poor, blue-collar family struggling to get by that had a house with a detached garage and 4 bedrooms.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Which they only had because multiple people were murdered in the house, and Lois didn't tell the family.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

LPT from a local: Skip this tourist trap and just go to Ohiopyle down the road for natural rock slides. It is, perhaps, my favourite park.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I find most video games and other media far more unrealistic in that nobody ever needs to go to the bathroom.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like you don't play Ark: Survival Evolved.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

I don't mind unrealistic housing as long as it's not directly referenced. Nothing worse than a character inviting someone into their home saying something like "sorry it's so cramped" and then the shot reveals a living room large enough to fit my entire apartment.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

It's all that tip money.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

80s had a different definition of being a part time mum to 20 kids

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Sean William Scott in Role Models - his job is to dress up as an energy drink mascot, but he lives on the canals at Venice Beach and has ordinary neighbours who he sees and talks to.

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