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As a somewhat frequent poster myself, I kind of miss the meaningless number going up. It lets me track how many people have seen the stuff I posted and cared enough to react

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

Not only do I not miss it, I'm relieved that it's not here.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

No, it just existed to block people from posting.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Nope. I was on reddit for like 14 years and I couldn't tell you what my karma was because I cared so little about it. I paid a little attention to up votes and that's about it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Never cared about the cumulative, only about the score on individual comments. Still got that, still get the little dopamine hit from looking at it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I get where you're coming from. You could revisit the contributions you've made and the messages and replies you've received. The difference is that those ARE meaningful and hopefully in a good way. I think Reddit actively pushes the concept of karma because it's an great engagement metric and they love that.

My opinion is that Reddit is captured and driven to push engagement for advertising revenue at the expense of meaningful interaction. Lemmy is a platform where that engagement metric is only intrinsic to the individual. People are here because they want to have meaningful conversations? Maybe I'm dreaming

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

If you're dreaming, we're sharing the same dream.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

That’s a good point. I was just thinking on it since I recently reached 500 posts. Might go scroll through them and look at some of the comments again

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

No. It encourages people to game the system instead of honestly engaging.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

In a number-go-up kind of sense, yeah - it's inherently gamification of social media and it is fun for some of our brains. However, I also think that karma or any other kind of "engagement accumulation" turns social media from a place of discussion into a competition for attention, where you're more incentivized to post solely for upvotes. Only a small minority takes posting seriously like this I admit it, but it does make the experience worse for everyone.

That's not to say the mindset doesn't exist without karma, only that it gets amplified.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

If I cared about karma I would be on Reddit instead of here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm glad it's not a thing here because as a "positive" incentive I feel like it drives some users to vapid karma farming over actually interesting and new content. That said, I occasionally miss it when there's some unpleasant commenter douchenozzeling all over a thread and it's an easy way to see if someone is always an unpleasant ass or if they're having a bad day and otherwise make valuable contributions to Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

True. But we can just ban unpleasant douchenozzles

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Worse solution

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I don't even have a down vote button anymore and I low-key like it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Ye kinda. But I'm so happy that it's gone. A lot people go wild when they see a number they can increase.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I feel about the same. I don't particularly care about it, but it's nice to know how many I helped. It was intentionally removed, I believe so it doesn't incentivise karma farms. If karma exists it will be used and there will be reasons to farm it.

Nothing a quick Postgres query can't fix though :p

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Some apps and front ends support showing your post and comment "karma". Eternity, for example

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Kinda. At least there's per post karma

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Kind of, and it was a good way to keep trolls and spammers out of sensitive communities, but unfortunately with bots and astroturfing existing nowadays, karma incentives terrible behavior.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There is an option in your settings so you don't see upvotes or downvotes on individual comments.

None of these imaginary points matter.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

No. I don't even like visible vote count. I think it hurts us more than it helps.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, and I wish votes didn't even exist here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Votes are the only reason making a social platform social.

Juat look at Youtube comments, Instagram, Facebook, etc. None have downvotes.

Its somehow more social to see opinions on votes besides text.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I think voting is completely unnecessary, and is a sort of "participation placebo" for the lazy but opinionated.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nobody needs to vote, but if most people do vote, makes it easier for everyone to find good content.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The best content on this platform often has less than 10 votes. The most? The sociopolitical headline mill communities.

If certain people feel that's the good content, that's their prerogative. I don't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Now you’re conflating quality with popularity.

A popularity metric is still handy since there is no objective quality metric.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

That's a fair point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Its more about reflecting on your own comment or post.

Here is a good post about this topic https://lemmy.ml/post/29375485

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I find a good amount of opinions in that post highly idealized and conceptual, but not really the end experience. Nevertheless, thank you for sharing the link.

I'd be more open to a voting system that rewards actual contribution. For example, a user is allotted (rewarded?) a certain number of votes for every post and every comment they make. The content creators and discussion participants drive the platform.

I'm sure a whole new set of problems would arise, but I feel it'd be a fresh experience, with less armchair warriors.