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Context: I made a poll on PieFed about the new post flairs (so if you are one of the few hundred people who have a PieFed account, follow that link and answer there). Unfortunately Lemmy has neither polls nor post flairs, so this post is to open up the discussion to the wider Fediverse, or rather the subset of it that encompasses Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed, which is called... what exactly?

Is Threadiverse too traumatic & tainted by association with Meta's (all but entirely defunct) Threads? Is The Verse too cool/poetic/nerdy (but niche) to be understood? I highly advise against Lemmyverse bc mainstream normal people are far less tolerant of tankies than we who are here are willing to put up with. Simply listing the software available sometimes is the best option - like the Interstellar app supports all of Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed, but most support at best 1 or 2 of those - but usually is too long to say and does not roll off the tongue, plus will just keep growing as time goes on. Is Forumverse thus the least bad of the available options, or perhaps you have a better idea? ๐Ÿ’ก

Anyway, the start to a listing:

  1. Threadiverse
  2. Forumverse
  3. (The) Verse
  4. Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed
  5. Something else?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

I've been calling it threadiverse because that is what I saw most other people call it.

Really all it is is "ActivityPub groups" or if that is too technical, "fediverse groups".

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

The linked linkers, because we're link aggregators that link together.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Well, if you look at the sidebar of [email protected] i included NodeBB. ๐Ÿ˜…

In this post too ๐Ÿฅน

Forumverse : for any news and features about Lemmy, Mbin, NodeBB, PieFed

So it can't be Lemmy,Mbin,PieFed. And i'm adding flarum.

However, we can create separate category :

  • aggregator link : lemmy,mbin,piefed
  • forum : nodebb, flarum
  1. Thank to Meta, i don't like it...
  2. My favorite one, it remind me of forum era
  3. Abstract and beautiful. Poetry, bible and verb. Something we have never see before ๐Ÿ˜Š.
  4. i'm against. Link aggregator shouldn't be tied by a software name but a global concept as thread of forum. If i have 6 softwares...do you write them all ?
  5. linkagg lousy but pratical. Bad name are the best. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

I think we should redo the post, but, for now, let's see where it go ๐Ÿ˜Š

Edit : added answer

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

So far, mainly from this post bc the poll has such a small sample size, the term that seems vastly preferred is Threadiverse. Bc of its history, and how people have already been calling it that. Sort this post by Hot to see what I mean.

I don't think Forumverse is "bad", plus as you say it better represents the new additions of nodebb and flarum. Although that term would be swimming against the tide of people that have been using Threadiverse all this time and seem to not want to switch (possibly bc I did not explain the situation well, especially the clarification about the term Fediverse already existing, and now how the situation is a bit different wrt nodebb and flarum).

Ofc this is all just on a Sunday -> there is still lots of room for things to happen in the next coming days, to see how these results may shift:-).

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

I've always liked threadiverse, since it describes what's unique about this aspect of the Fediverse.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Oh shit my vote made 100%, I didnโ€™t know I was the first to vote.

The Verse it is then ๐Ÿ˜

Le Verse in my corner of the world.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Maybe we are poetic!? :-P

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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I need ad-like branding on what Mbin and PieFed are.

Im too lazy to look it up

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They both have features that Lemmy lacks.

Like PieFed has polls, post flairs, hashtags, categories of communities (basically multi-reddits), which are user customizable and shareable, and a lot more. Though lacking quite a bit of polish such as post and comment previews, and very little to almost no official app support (though an API was recently released and Thunder is being tested, and Interstellar already supports it). It's newer than Lemmy, but written in Python rather than the difficult Rust language, so in many ways has already surpassed Lemmy in terms of features (and even Reddit in some ways too, especially since the only new features there for the last decade were solely aimed at increasing profits rather than good experiences for the users).

Mbin's primary distinction is also supporting federation not only with Lemmy (and PieFed) but also Mastodon. And it has a different interface that some people prefer to Lemmy's. If you want both the Threadiverse/Forumverse/Whatever and Mastodon integration with a single account, this is the only option atm.

Both PieFed and Mbin are entirely separate implementations of the ActivityPub protocol, so whether you actually use them or not it is worth celebrating that Lemmy is now not the only one that implements this forum/thread/basically Reddit replacement style (other notable implementations include Friendica a Facebook replacement, and Mastodon an X/Twitter one, Pixelfed I think an Instagram one, etc.). Especially with Lemmy's association with "tankies" that tends to drive many people away (e.g. 100% of the people that I've ever told about Lemmy irl; and Reddit's r/RedditAlternatives is filled with stories of people who don't want to come here bc of all the BoTh SiDeS sAmE rhetoric that we allow here, plus Lemmy is somehow more authoritian than Reddit even, having a modlog but no modmail, no notification of a moderation event, no ability to discuss bc it simply says that a "mod" did it, and you don't have a right to even so much as be told that your content is now removed! instance admins have much more freedom here, it's fantastic, but actual users only have what manages to trickle down from them, and the software itself very much reflects an authoritarian mindset, even in comparison to Reddit).

Btw, fuck spez.

TLDR: Lemmy isn't the only game in town, yet we need a name that is both distinct from other Fediverse tools (Mastodon, Friendica, Pixelfed, Loops, etc.) while also being inclusive to the other Reddit replacement tools, currently Mbin and PieFed, but in the future including Sublinks, and who knows what else?

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

no ability to discuss bc it simply says that a โ€œmodโ€ did it

this is actually an option for instance admins to choose

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

thanks this helps alot :P

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Mbin "Lemmy but also Mastadon"

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lembipie. What else?

(And why does this particular subset need a name, anyway? The plus combo is easier to get the point across with)

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

It was Lemmy+Mbin.

Now it's already up to Lemmy+Mbin+PieFed+nodebb.

And flarum and Sublinks may be added at some point as well.

So the plus syntax, now that there's already 4-6 of them (7 if you count Kbin but there's only a single instance in the entire world, in Poland I believe, that uses it these days, everyone else switched to Mbin), seems untenable?

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've been calling them "Redditlikes" or "Reddit replacements" in ordinary conversation. We won't need terms like that forever, though.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah it'll be better to have a term in which Reddit plays no part in defining is!

And this post is an opportunity to make exactly such a term!

Say "fuck spez" in the absolute best way possible - by moving on and forget that he ever existed, as we build our own stuff here.:-D

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is that bc of this being a post aggregation? Then wouldn't it be an "aggreverse"?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

That works for Lemmy + K/Mbin.

But now with +PieFed, +nodebb, and soon +flarum, and perhaps +Sublinks, Lemmyville doesn't seem very inclusive?

I already started this as a poll about post flairs, neither of which features is nor is expected to appear on Lemmy very soon iirc. The rest of the Fediverse isn't waiting around for coders to learn Rust and eventually getting around to adding features to Lemmyville.

So Lemmy in particular may want to not start being exclusive! It will get left behind if it does!

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What about "Fedivotes" or "Votiverse?" Upvotes and downvotes are pretty key distinctives to this form of social network.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

True, but doesn't Xhitter and Bluesky and Mastodon also have a type of voting? Even if it is called or functions slightly differently?

I did not explain much of the back story, but the Fediverse is already the term used to describe federated social media, so the term here that we need is to pick one that describes the specific subset of it that focuses on threaded conversions, centered around those topic areas (called posts, and then those topics being further aggregated into higher-level topics, called communities) rather than centered around a user tweeting/X-creting/whatever their shit.

And we also have a focus on much longer-form content than those others, which like Mastodon have smaller character limits imposed upon their thoughts (so that they cannot ramble on as I have done here:-).

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

But that would mean that we mainly talk about Linux...

Which, yup, sounds about right!

In that case though, [puts actshually hat on], wouldn't it be gun+verse?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Bulletinfedi?

Forumverse gets my vote out of the listed options.

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