There is a path to redemption, and recognizing your past mistakes is part of that.
this post was submitted on 08 May 2025
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Too bad I don't know any that stop drinking the kool-aid (flavor aid), they still think that hurting liberals makes hurting conservatives worth it.
Instead of "if you're not with us, you're against us",
It's "as long as you're against them, you can be with us."
And frankly, that's what we need right now.
First past the post voting is fucking garbage but this is how you're supposed to engage it; it's NEVER EVER EVER EVER going to be good for supporting the lesser of two evils.
Instead, the best thing it can ever do is punish the greater evil
And these are VERY DIFFERENT GOALS.
If people were voting to punish the Trump campaign, Kamala would have won.
Notably, people very much voted to punish Kamala instead. Even the ones on the left. And boy did we show her -_- now we ALL get to suffer.
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Hey, so long as they're willing to put the ones who aren't apologetic against the wall
Appologetic is the key word. There needs to be accountability, not even for a sake of justice or anything, but just due to the fact that they need to have learned a lesson to be an ally of the cause, and not just an eventual traitor.
As much as it's fun to say fuck you I told you so, you catch more flies with honey. We need to make it easy to leave the cult and not make people double down just because they feel ashamed or feel like they have to defend something. The goal, while enticing, is not to rub people's nose in the shit they admittedly helped create. The goal should be to get rid of this motherfucker and reverse everything he's done.
So you still believe voting can fix this?
I agree with you but put out some honey next to some balsamic vinegar sometime and see which one pulls more flies.
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And when these trump voters vote for republicans again, democrats will blame the left. Again.
No we don't. MAGAts are fucking stupid. They knew what they voted for and got EXACTLY what they were told they were voting for.
This sort of delusional and aggressive thinking just drives division.
The reality is, most people don’t make educated decisions at the polls. It’s knee jerk reaction to the economy
The reality is, most people don’t make educated decisions at the polls. It’s knee jerk reaction to the economy
Yes, and that's childish and fucking moronic. Do better. I'm admittedly one to over-prepare in general, but I genuinely cannot comprehend why anyone would CHOOSE to not know anything about what they're voting for. "Oh, I don't like following politics". Well, tough shit dumbass; I don't like feeling like I'm stuck in the geopolitical equivalent of a high school group project with the asshole jock who can't be arsed to do his portion of the fucking presentation but here we fucking are.
The situation is dire enough that no, I'm not saying we should turn these folks away. We need all the help we can get. But I'll be lying to them when I tell them I forgive them. I don't think I ever truly will.
This isn't partisan, you're fighting human nature here. Most people aren't that politically engaged. How many people were surprised Biden wasn't on the ballot?
Most people aren't following politics, they follow a vibe that they think about every few years and then go on not worrying about. Things have to get really bad before the average person thinks critically about their political representation beyond sports tribalism.
Every convert is +2, don't disincentivize that.
I'm not trying to disincentivize that, I'm being honest about it in a forum where it's highly unlikely they're gonna read it. How many regretful Trump voters who voted that way because they don't pay attention do you think hang out in politics threads on lemmy? I'm not gonna turn any away if I run into one in real life but if I'm being sincere, I'm also never gonna be able to fully trust them.
And "being the bigger man" before got us to where we are now. Give them an inch and they take a mile.
The dude instigated 1-6. He is a felon. The economy has nothing to do with it.
Perhaps but any kind of effective resistance needs widespread support from anywhere we can get it
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It's never to late to do the right thing.
Seems to be a division here based on the (ex)Trumpanzee's sincerity vs not.
My thought is who gives a shit if they're sincere? The goal isn't to convert them, it's to defeat Trump and people like Trump - if a former Trump voter can be used against him, I have no issues at all with at least pretending to accept that that person is having an authentic denazification. Whether or not they're truly capable of self reflection is kinda moot
Hope the feral and heavily armed ones turn on him