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Wondering if your typical/average/normie person (millennials and younger) know it or know about it. It’s enabled on reddit and discord?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 24 minutes ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago)

No, they use the WYSIWYG editor it has.

I am a big fan of markdown though.

spoiler Did you know you can nest these?

That's right, someone could make a choose your own adventure game this way

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 minutes ago

I hate it when someone dumps their log file without using a code block. Even seen some Arch Linux users do it, which is, unsurprising really.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

I would guess they know a bit about lists using “-“ and a few people might know about using asterisk to bold stuff, but other than that probably not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 54 minutes ago

I only know some characters

like this one

Like this one

Does anyone know the best markdown-learning platform?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

No, the average person struggles with WYSIWYG editors

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

The issue for a long time was that there is no markdown standard, so everyone had their own version of it.

CommonMark is gaining ground, so hopefully markdown will be the same everywhere soon

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

Yes, no, maybe.

I don’t know.

Can you repeat the question?
[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 hours ago

Nope. Most tech people don't know what markdown is.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Not Markdown as a whole, but I guess they commonly know to use asterisks for italics and bold. Some also know how to ~~cross~~ the text. Not much more for a normie, though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You mean ̶s̶t̶r̶i̶k̶e̶t̶̶h̶r̶o̶u̶g̶h̶? Yeah. It can be done without markdown.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 minutes ago

Those are usually broken on screen readers.

[–] Adderbox76 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I guess they commonly know to use asterisks for italics and bold

I wouldn't guess that at all. Pretty much everyone I know in the "normie" world would AT BEST use ctrl-i and ctrl-b if they're not just pressing the icon in the gui.

Hell, most of them look at me like I'm a goddamn morlock when I tell them to Shift-delete in order to skip the recycling bin.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm a normie, I'm tech literate adjacent-adjacent, by which I mean I'm here on lemmy rather than Facebook, but no. Me and my peers are not pressing ctrl anything. I don't even know what gui means. Something user interface? I'm not proud to be this dumb, but I'm pretty sure most "regular" people are in this boat with me. I was the third most tech literate person in my entire office last year with a bunch of millennials simply because I was willing to Google things.

[–] Adderbox76 1 points 4 hours ago

Most IT nowadays is just simply the ability to google. What sets a professional IT person apart from an amateur is that the professional has an educated guess as to what to google in the first place.

Non-professional: "My computer is making a weird buzzing noise"

Professional: "What are the symptoms of a bad cooling fan?"

[–] [email protected] 62 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 51 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I think less than 50% of people with access to technology are tech literate enough to know what markdown is. I don't think age really applies here so much as interest in technology.

Just because I drive a car doesn't mean I know or care about how it works. It's just a tool.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I would even say less than 5%

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Well, 5% is less than 50%

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

...could you please elaborate?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Dumb joke that's from South Park. There's a towel, and any time someone calls him a towel, he retorts with, "you're a towel".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W5lLHWeg3o

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 14 hours ago

No, and they don't want to

[–] [email protected] 27 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Most people are probably at least aware that there are contexts where their basic plain-text formatting (like asterisks for bullets) will get cleaned up to a prettier format when they post it.

They may not know the name of the format or all the available features.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I’m gonna go with no. I don’t think enough platforms use it natively.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 minutes ago

Does WhatsApp actually use markdown? The implementation is awful then.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 16 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 20 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Elder Millennial here. All I know about markdown is:

  1. To make a hard copy of a thought or conversation. "Mark that down in your notes, so we don't forget."

  2. A discount or sale. "Did you see the 30% markdown on three legged jeans?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 minute ago

Any Elder Millennial born after 1979 can’t Markdown, all they know is jot that down, 30% off on jeans, nostalgia for blockbuster, eat hot chip and buy avocado toast

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

30% markdown on three legged jeans? Damn, that's almost one whole leg for free!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

And yet you just used it! Some parts of markdown were made to be intuitive and natural like:

  1. Numbering your items
  2. will automatically format them
  3. into ordered lists
  • and if you use - it's an unordered list
  • same with asterisk
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Markdown is 100%[^1] intuitive.

[^1]: for certain definitions of 100%.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Still don't have any idea what you're talking about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Markdown is a markup language, which can be used by users to indicate formatting hints to the underlying system. For example, you want a text to be bold, a markup language lets you tell that to the website in a way it understands.

Older markup languages tended to be verbose and complicated. For example, this is a numbered list in BBCode, which is the classic forum markup language: [ol][li]Item one[/li][li]Item two[/li][/ol].

Markdown keeps it simple and intuitive, for the most part.

1. item 1
2. item 2

The above is a numbered list in Markdown. Much simpler than the BBCode version. Simple enough that people like you can do it without even being aware of Markdown at all.


*This is cursive text*
**This is bold text**

# this is a heading

## this is a smaller heading

###### usually up to six levels are supported, but this might differ based on the implementation (my instance seems to make all of these the same size)

> this is a quote
it can span multiple lines too

this is a bullet point list:
- item 1
- item 2

[Links are more complicated, but still as easy as they can be](https://example.org/)

The above doesn't actually display formatted because I used a code block to show the Markdown as written. The below is how the above actually displays:

This is cursive text This is bold text

this is a heading

this is a smaller heading

usually up to six levels are supported, but this might differ based on the implementation (my instance seems to make all of these the same size)

this is a quote it can span multiple lines too

this is a bullet point list:

  • item 1
  • item 2

Links are more complicated, but still as easy as they can be


edit: this is what the original creator of Markdown has to say on the matter:

Markdown is intended to be as easy-to-read and easy-to-write as is feasible.

Readability, however, is emphasized above all else. A Markdown-formatted document should be publishable as-is, as plain text, without looking like it’s been marked up with tags or formatting instructions. While Markdown’s syntax has been influenced by several existing text-to-HTML filters — including Setext, atx, Textile, reStructuredText, Grutatext, and EtText — the single biggest source of inspiration for Markdown’s syntax is the format of plain text email.

To this end, Markdown’s syntax is comprised entirely of punctuation characters, which punctuation characters have been carefully chosen so as to look like what they mean. E.g., asterisks around a word actually look like emphasis. Markdown lists look like, well, lists. Even blockquotes look like quoted passages of text, assuming you’ve ever used email.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You typed some text to make your first comment, and it looked something like this:

Elder Millennial here. All I know about markdown is:

1. To make a hard copy of a thought or conversation. "Mark that down in your notes, so we don't forget."

2. A discount or sale. "Did you see the 30% markdown on three legged jeans?"

The way your comment actually displays is different though, isn't it? The numbered items are indented and come one after the other without any space inbetween, and the text within each numbered item is properly aligned.

What you entered is just text, and text by itself is inherently meaningless. "Markdown" is the name of a particular standard way of formatting text so that programs can reliably interpret parts of that text as representing the writers desire for their text to be displayed a particular way. You can kind of think of it like a programming language. As another basic example, consider this text:

This is a paragraph.
This        is still    the same
       paragraph.

Here is the second one.





And here is the third                   one.

I'm going to paste this text right after this sentence; notice how the amount of space doesn't matter, and how a new paragraph is denoted by at least two line breaks.

This is a paragraph. This is still the same paragraph.

Here is the second one.

And here is the third one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I read all that and I must admit I am still not quite sure what part of all that is markdown, and why any of it is markdown.

I get that this sentence must be the key concept: "“Markdown” is the name of a particular standard way of formatting text so that programs can reliably interpret parts of that text as representing the writers desire for their text to be displayed a particular way." But it reads like a tautology without really explaining either statement.

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