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A 2025 Tesla Model 3 in Full-Self Driving mode drives off of a rural road, clips a tree, loses a tire, flips over, and comes to rest on its roof. Luckily, the driver is alive and well, able to post about it on social media.

I just don't see how this technology could possibly be ready to power an autonomous taxi service by the end of next week.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

self driving is the future, but im glad im not a beta tester.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're probably right about the future, but like damn, I wish they would slow their roll and use LiDAR

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Elon Musk decided they absolutely would not use lidar, years ago when lidar was expensive enough that a decision like that made economic sense to at least try making work. Nowadays lidar is a lot cheaper but for whatever reason Musk has drawn a line in the sand and refuses to back down on it.

Unlike many people online these days I don't believe that Musk is some kind of sheer-luck bought-his-way-into-success grifter, he has been genuinely involved in many of the decisions that made his companies grow. But this is one of the downsides of that (Cybertruck is another). He's forced through ideas that turned out to be amazing, but he's also forced through ideas that sucked. He seems to be increasingly having trouble distinguishing them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

He's forced through ideas that turned out to be amazing, but he's also forced through ideas that sucked.

He's utterly incapable of admitting that one of his ideas is garbage.

There is a reason he fawns all over Trump and that's because both of them are of a type. Both of them have egos large enough to have their own gravitational fields but lack any real talent. Look his family up, they're all like that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

They removed their lidar sensors after the prices had already come down.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ditto! They were about 1 foot from hitting the tree head on rather than glancing off, could have easily been fatal. Weirdly small axises of random chance that the world spins on

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I still don't understand what made it happen. I kept watching shadows and expecting it to happen earlier.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

It makes no damn sense! There were worse shadows. it was totally unpredictable

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

There's some difference in the fences on the left side at the exact time the car passed by on the other lane. My guess is that the timing of the other car made the software interpret those changes in the input as something moving instead of simply something being different.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

They seriously need to pull FSD if it were just a matter of people risking their own lives I wouldn't mind but they're risking everyone else's by driving this glitch machine around.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I thought it might be following the tire tracks but no. It just decided to veer completely off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It's full self-driving, doesn't need roads. Put into wrong car.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I fear the day I’m on the receiving end of a “glitch.” It’s ridiculous that anyone can think these are safe after how many of these videos I’ve seen.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

As a motorcyclist... Yeah.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Typical piss poor quality from Leon Hitler. F Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

There’s an obvious reason. It’s a fucking Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

It was in stunt mode

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not really worth talking about unless the crash rate is higher than human average.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Imagine if people treated airbags that way XD

If Ford airbags just plain worked, and then Tesla airbags worked 999 times out of 1,000, would the correct answer be to say "well thems the breaks, there is no room for improvement, because dangerously flawed airbags are way safer than no airbags at all."

Like, no. No, no, no. Cars get recalled for flaws that are SO MUCH less dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

you do get this wrong, its a flying car

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But does it do it less often than humans?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A good point, but I'm not sure that's where the bar is. How does it compare to other self-driving systems that have lidar, for instance?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Depends on the issue at hand. To get these approved and widespread, better than humans may be the bar.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have done it zero times, and I am definitely a Human man.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Can confirm, also a human and never caused a car crash

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm gonna answer your question with a question, as I don't have your answer. When a human wrecks up it's their fault. Who's fault is it when something like this happens? Should ut still be the person in the driver's seat?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

No idea how that will turn out. Fully auto, but you have to maintain the vehicle and ensure it's road worthy as the owner.

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