this post was submitted on 27 May 2025
-4 points (42.9% liked)

Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

1186 readers
124 users here now

This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

Posting Guidelines

All posts should follow this basic structure:

  1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
  2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
  3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
  4. Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
  5. Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.

Rules

Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.

Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.

YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.

Some acronyms you might see.

Relevant comms

founded 9 months ago
MODERATORS
[email protected]
[email protected]
-4
Mod at [email protected] removes comment, probably based on a political bias. (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 day ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
41 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

I commented the following on this post problem is not Netanyahu, it is not Ben Gvir. it is the white supremacist mindset of Israeli public.

This is not new, extremists gain power, they are then making everything they can to stay in power while they slowly turn anyone they can to their side. They use the education system, political systems, laws and the media. Considering that Netanyahu has been in power since 2009 he has literally shaped the political and moral ideology of a significant part of the population. Imagine being 10 yo at 2009, by the time you van vote all you ever knew was Netanyahu. At the end of the day, an adult that is calling for genocide is responsible for their opinions and actions, but this is how a situation where a majority of a country if genocidal happens, with slow, steady and intentional manipulation of the public. Netanyahu and his terrorist goons ARE the problem, but at this point removing them from power is just a small part of the solution. As a kid I always wandered how people can truly think a genocide is a good idea, as an adult I am sad to see that it really is that easy, it really can start with just the wrong people gaining power. And just to be fair, this is very much true about Palestine as well. While the situation is completely different, they too have been under a genocidal and terroristic regime since 2006 and many (probably most) would answer similarly to such a questionnaire about Israelis and Jews. Of course Palestine have had the short end of the stick for all of those years while Israel got to become a developed country. It's just sad to see how the people in power just fuck everyone around them, no one wins, no one is happy, all you get is death, hate and destruction, and of course the reason for all of this: Money, religion, power.

I don't know how to check who the mod was but it seems that they are removing plenty of content, some of which seems to be content that just doesn't support a black and white view of the situation where Palestinians are the only victims and Israelis are all evil (not excusing genocide here)

And the weird thing is that rule one has nothing to do with the comment:

all 43 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

The difference between Israeli violence against Palestinians and Palestinian violence against Israelis is that Israel colonized Palestine.

I'm tired of liberals both-sidesing this bullshit, not only on the internet as a whole but on fucking [email protected]? YDI.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

YDI.

Anyone who “both sides” a genocide not only deserves to be banned from a community for the oppressed people, but they are also a shit human being and a liberal. This is peak .world behavior, the only thing it’s missing is someone whining about CiViLiTy.

TLDR: you disgust me, I hope your shoelaces never stay tied, you step in dog shit every time you go outside, and you get an itchy rash that never goes away and covers half your face.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You try to equate the oppresor violence with the oppresed violence due to desperation and being oppressed for 57 years. Consciensly or not this is apologia to colonization.

I think you deserve it

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get what you are saying, but I don't think that is actually in the comment I made. My commebt was about the problem of accusing the public as it lumps groups that some of which ate actually fighting against the genocide.

I don't like comparing atrocities, but yeah, genocide is worse. So I don't understand why you assume I see both sides as equal?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I don’t think that is actually in the comment I made.

This you?

And just to be fair, this is very much true about Palestine as well. While the situation is completely different, they too have been under a genocidal and terroristic regime since 2006

I could have sworn that was you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

YDI.

Edgy liberals fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Netanyahu and his terrorist goons ARE the problem

No, this is complete reductionism that ignores/denies 100+ years of history. This didn't start in 2006 FFS. Nobody wants to hear this BS. YDI.

they too have been under a genocidal and terroristic regime since 2006

No they haven't. There is only one genocide happening in palestine. Get a clue. YDI again.

while Israel got to become a developed country

I think you mean while "israel" murdered people to steal land and resources while funded by global imperialism... YDI again.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The post was deleted by an admin ^1 and the 'rule 1' should be the instance rule 1:

  1. No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.

  1. Your comment on the Palestinian community, in my opinion, is a poor analysis of the historical and material conditions that have led to the current situation in Palestine. It ignores Zionism, colonialism, and the structural racism of Israel, both as a Zionist political project initially and as an effective state later.

  2. You repeatedly use 'they' in your comment, with these 'they' being the extremists. My interpretation of your comment is that it starts from the hypothesis that 'extremism is bad'. I totally disagree. Often the extremists have been the vanguard of progress (people who believed that the earth revolved around the sun, 'liberals' willing to risk their lives cutting off the heads of kings and bishops...), although they can also be the vanguard of reaction (e.g. fascism).

If points 1 and 2 are correct, the violation of rule 1 is easily derived (dog-whistle, Zionist apology, anti-Palestinian resistance...).

IMHO, this only justifies deleting an elaborate comment if the community is defined as a safe space for Palestinians, they justifiably believe you are trolling, or they are flooded with similar messages. Otherwise, what the admin should have done is down-vote and reply for what they consider your argument to be toxic.

PTB/BPR

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I'm not a historian, I will probably make mistakes and I am open to conversation and criticism.

There is a lot of history here that I am not mentioning in the comment.

My comment was really about the fact that this lumping of groups is part of the problem. If 65% of Israelis are pro genocide that still leaves 3.4 million people that are presumably against it. Understanding that once a genocidal leader is in power for long enough, it absolutely can lead to hatred filled brainwashing which makes more of the population genocidal and this is how we get to such high numbers.

And I say this is true about Palestine as well because you hear the same BS from pro Israel people who claim that because so many Palestinians are celebrating Hamas they must all be genocidal, which probably means that they are actually ignoring some hundreds of thousands of people who do want peace.

Without getting into the past, you have to acknowledge that these broad accusations are part of the problem.

As for the extremists part, I specifically mean genocidal people, not just any extremists. I am well aware that extremists always have been and always will be a critical part of positive change.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

People seem to be saying YDI with arguments that essentially come down to OP being wrong/ignorant. But even if that's true, it's not actually relevant. Most of what they were saying was just sharing their perspective, which by default should be allowed. If it's a bad take, downvote or argue in the comments or whatever. A comment should only be removed for things like being rule-breaking, something intolerable like CP, off-topic, doxxing, spam, ban-evasion, or perhaps a flagrant example of bad faith or personal attacks to the point of being harassment.

OP's comments were none of those things. Someone said that the ban was referencing instance rule 1 rather than community rule 1 but that still wouldn't apply. OP was not racist (or any other prohibited -ist). Essentially they have been saying the dominant powers in both Israel and Palestine have been exploiting their people and maintaining a culture of hatred to the other side, and that doing so is bad. Again, you may disagree with that assessment but it's not racism. They were careful to direct criticism to particular political groups and individuals. The residents of the countries were presented as victims, as deserving of sympathy as anyone else in an awful situation.

PTB

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Thank you, it is annoying how no one here actually focused on the point of this community. I respect peoples opinions and passion to share them, but I didn't come here to argue about the political issues, I came here to see if I did something wrong or is the mod really just disagreeing with me and abusing their power.

I believe in free speech, I respect the freedom of each user here to express their opinion. I don't believe that mod shares my free speech opinions.

P. S

Anyone who agrees with shutting down those who express opinions different from their own is not actually helping their cause. You want me to see the fault in my views? Talk to me! You want an echo chamber? Ban me 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

I didn't come here to argue about the political issues

If that were true, then you wouldn’t have tried relitigating your position in the OP.

You tried to “both sides” a genocide, on a comm for the people being murdered. Not only did YDI, but you’re a shit person as well. Let me guess though, you voted liberal in the last election?