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[–] [email protected] 212 points 1 week ago (12 children)

This is just how things worked back when unions were in the equation. If you sold TVs or drove a truck for a living, you got a house. If you had a good job, you had a house like this and basically everything you wanted.

We traded that life for a few hundred people having yachts instead.

[–] [email protected] 132 points 1 week ago

My mom worked in a factory, my dad has been chronically unemployed and her parents worked at a food cart.

We owned a 3 story house with two kitchens, four bathrooms, and six bedrooms for $70k in the hood. Gentrification happened and it's worth a million now.

I make double what my mom makes, and with the combined salaries of my wife, we still rent.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago (5 children)

People insisting trickle down economics worked, when, in fact, it tricked up into the pockets of Bezos and the Waltons.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think the McAllisters were in union jobs. I think they were pretty high up the tier of management.

People talk about union jobs going away, but don't forget, non-unionized middle management has totally been gutted by outside consultants over the same time period. So the changes in the workforce have hurt the earning power of both the line workers and the middle managers who used to make up the middle class.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Hm, I'm not really all that expert on the topic, but I feel like people in union jobs making enough of a salary to buy a comfortable home is going to drive up wages for everyone, even the people who have nothing to do with it.

Of course, UPS drivers are making $175k/yr right now, and there doesn't seem to be a lot stopping other companies for paying people in washers and balls of lint for doing the exact same job. My feeling is that it's an issue of critical mass, but like I say that's more or less just a guess.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Union membership in the US was at 16% in 1991. Obviously that's better than today's 10%, but that spread is hardly big enough to be the difference between the presumed worker's paradise of the early '90s and the dystopian nightmare of 2025.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Well let’s change that!

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

His dad was an exec, and his mom was a fashion designer. They either alluded to, or outright said what his dad's profession was, and the only reason to have those mannequins sitting around is if someone is designing clothing.

His parents had money. However, the uncle was the one that paid for the vacation, as he had even more money.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It was also the 90s. To anyone who didn't live it I can not overstate how many benefits the McCallister adults had. Not even from the government just the world. The Soviet Union had just collapsed, China hadn't risen yet and Europe had just finally recovered from WWII. America was at the end of being uncontested internationally for 50 years and had another decade to go before it all starts to crumble. Being middle class in the United States meant you had a good paying job, not the single bread winner jobs of decades before but wayyy better than what most people are offered now. It was a very different time.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ask any Baby Boomer for career advice, and you'll see how true this is. Who else was advised to "go straight to the boss" when applying for a job?

Double points if you were then directed to apply on a website.

Triple points if you told whoever offered you advice that you had to do the entire application process online, and they didn't believe you.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Quadruple points if the website both requires you to upload a CV and enter all of the details into a form before you can submit.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Remember how Homer Simpson was supposed to be a loser? Owning a 2 story house in the suburbs and supporting a family of 5 on a single salary? The 90's hit different.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

However, the uncle was the one that paid for the vacation, as he had even more money.

I feel like I saw some BTS story about how the Home Alone canon was that it was in repayment for another vacation Kevin's dad paid for.

Edit: I had it flipped. Kevin's dad, Peter, paid for the trip in Home Alone 2 to take everyone to Florida.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

According to everything I read his father was listed as a prominent man in business, but the script doesn't go further than that. Yes, the script says the mother was a fashion designer, but doesn't say for what company, or anything more specific than that.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Kevin's mom is a fashion designer, hence all the mannequins.

And the trip was paid for by Kevin's uncle living in Paris because his work transferred him there.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yup. Every time this post comes up I’m reminded that people don’t know the plot very well and are still unaware of their gender bias.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I really wish this stupid meme would die.

They say it and refer to it multiple times during the opening: THE UNCLE THEY ARE VISITING IS THE ONE PAYING FOR THE VACATION.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I mean, that's fine. But also it implies significant generational family wealth.

The point is that Kevin's family is loaded. Dad's likely an investment banker, mid-level corporate executive, white shoe lawyer, or other high income profession. And he comes from a family with similar wealth and status, such that they can afford to shell out five figures on an extended vacation abroad.

I think this is alluded to in the class character of Kevin himself, who seems fairly comfortable playing the spoiled rich kid, but is initially terrified and disoriented when presented with people living in poverty.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That doesn't explain the house and so many children though.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago

Was born at the right time

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] toastmeister 10 points 1 week ago

Dang thats really close to Lake Michigan.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Real answer: insurance salesman in the 90's.

This was a slightly exagerated, but rather typical upper-upper-middle class house.

A friend of a friend's dad had the same job, and a similar sized house. Guy had his own pinball room.

He also had a daughter that was in a secret relationship with my girlfriend (that they thought I didn't know about.)

Scissor-box it out with your "friend" all you want, free pinball is free pinball.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Pinball is life. Forrest Gump got it wrong. Life is not like a box of chocolates. It is like a pinball game. You're bouncing around like crazy and then suddenly it all ends when you go down the drain...

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Some other 90's TV shows and movies:

The Simpsons. Homer owns a 2 story house and supports a family of 5 (at least sometimes 6, with his father Abe) and two pets on a single income as a nuclear safety officer.

Christmas Vacation. Clark Griswold works as a chemical engineer at a food company working on such projects as a coating for cereal to keep it crunchy longer. There's no indication that his wife works. He supports a family of 4, owns a large house, takes frequent lengthy vacations and has enough disposable income to install an in-ground swimming pool...assuming his typical year-end bonus.

Married...With Children. Al Bundy is a retail shoe salesman, his wife does not work. He owns a 2-story house and supports a family of 4.

A single breadwinner owning a large house and supporting a family with disposable income didn't used to be hilariously unrealistic.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The post-WW2 greatest generation lifestyle was something else. Not to say that all WW2 veterans were well-off (WW2 veterans had a LOT of PTSD and many never recovered from wartime trauma), but increased housing development meant cheap houses for many people. A lot of houses of that time left a lot to be desired in modern terms (like some bathrooms had slots to put used safety razors in, but had no way of emptying them out...), but far more people than ever were actually able to afford homes.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My mother's house had one of these pleasant looking Razor Disposal Slots in a medicine cabinet. When we redid the bathroom there was just a pile of ancient rusty razor blades behind the wall.

Boomer era foresight. They probably dumped their used engine oil into holes in the back garden as well.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

My own father takes a kind of "Oh well, I'm only gonna live another 10 or 20 years anyway" attitude toward....basically everything, from politics to the environment to roof repair.

It hasn't occurred to him that it's a pretty shitty thing to say to your son's face. But it's how they think.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'll happily trade your razor blade slot for the crumbling linen-covered iron electrical wiring inside metal pipes in our 50's house. Don't worry, we are busy replacing it all. But if I'm suddenly permanently offline our house probably burned down. 😋

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[–] skisnow 7 points 1 week ago

The implausible part about Homer's job wasn't the salary, it was the fact that he was in charge of safety at a nuclear plant despite being completely unqualified. Lenny and Carl both have Masters' Degrees in Nuclear Science.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

But Al Bundy was constantly out of money and he did not own the house. His paycheck went straight to Peg who wasted it on fashion, on herself and useless stuff. The children had to steal food because Peg or Al never cooked at home. At some point Al made a joke that life won't get worse if anyone sues them for money, because he already has 2 mortgages on the house, his car is junk and he has no valuables and no savings to take away.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

So he could be in a good financial place if his wife didn't deliberately sabotage him.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The question is not what you do, but when.

If you did the same job you do today 50 years ago, you'd get massively better pay for it. Real (inflation-adjusted) wages have declined in the last decades, especially if you compare with cost-of-living inflation.

It just means that the demand for human labor is diminishing.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Money laundering. The trip was an excuse to meet with his associates without arousing suspicion.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Heard he was great friends with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

And whoever said all those children were actually his kids.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

TBH that would explain the Trump Cameo. It's all about who you know.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (11 children)

It's not just Home Alone for me. Almost every show I watch, I look at the places where the characters live with immense envy.

Lord of the Rings: Man, I'd love to live in that hobbit house. That looks incredibly cozy.

Daredevil: That is such a nice loft, and it has such great light. It's unfair that a guy who's blind doesn't truly appreciate his great apartment because he can't see.

Futurama: Fry's a delivery boy and he lives in a robot's closet, and it's still better than where I live.

Only Murders in the Building: NYC and these guys have those kinds of amazing places? (To be fair, this is a major plot element of the 4th season)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ever seen Snake Eyes with Nic Cage? Kevin's Dad killed the SecDef and was a weapons dealer.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Definitely Health Insurance CEO.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You assume they were his children. I mean he might have just been doing an Epstein.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

From what I remember, only a few of the kids on the trip were his, the rest were cousins. His wealthy(er) brother was the one flying them to Paris at his expense. Also he was the one sitting on a ridiculously 3 story brownstone in Manhattan. I don't believe we meet the brother in the films. Kevin's mom was supposed to have been the substantial breadwinner in the house as a fashion designer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

It's hard to fit a camera crew in a realistically sized house

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

The surgeon who performs illegal organ transplants.

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