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The eliminiation of the Israeli state doesnt have to cause a second holocaust. Just go back to where you, your parents and your grandparents lived before you invaded other peoples homes.
But it's way easier to kill some people in the Middle East and give their land away than taking actual responsibilty for the Holocaust.
And more profitable 💰
Netanyahu would have to go back to Philadelphia
I accept your terms.
Sir, Philadelphia is on the line. They say it's urgent.
I'm willing to compromise.
The people born there can stay, but they have to become Palestinian.
"Does israel have a right to exist?"
The answer to this is: did nazi Germany have a right to exist?
I wonder if we can find a new way of describing the notion of "Israel existing." It seems opponents believe we mean killing the occupants of Israel or (somehow removing the area entirely) rather than reforging the state itself. It's not like we don't want the geographical region to continue existing.
Israel has a right to become Palestine again.
Generally I'm not interested in what Israel as the right to become. I would rather "Israel doesn't have the right to not be Palestine" (phrased better, perhaps?)
Israel has to become something. It can't stay the way it is.
Allowing it to become Palestine again is just the compromise position.
Good point. Still, "not having the right to exist" sounds to me -- and more importantly, to those undecided on the issue -- like it's encouraging the destruction of the things that are in Israel, not the entity of Israel itself. Which is obviously not a take that's likely to attract support.
That's why I say it has a right to become Palestine. It will still exist, sort of, but in a revolutionary new form.
And Israelis can become Palestinians.
Assuming they aren't just settlers that moved there recently to steal land, of course.
Oh but it's okay when Israel does it? Fucking hypocrites.
That’s some expert-level DARVO right there.
Second holocaust?
Dude, you are committing the second holocaust, so that technically would be the third.
Having said that, aren't you kind of the reason why that would happen in the first place? Israel has had more than enough opportunities to make peace with everyone around it a hundred times over and so far all it has done is investing in making sure that shit got worse, like actually funding Hamas so that they could fight Hamas harder.
You dug your own grave here, I won't push you in it, but I also won't cry for you if you decide to jump in it
assuming holocaust=genocide, then this is not the second. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides
A Holocaust, ~~entomologically~~ etymologically, is a mass sacrifice in fire.
This genocide is particularly notable for how many people have been burned.
entomology is the study of bugs
Autocorrupt got me.
Maybe, just maybe, if you wanted to exist peacefully with your neighbors you'd stop indiscriminately bombing civilians and violating their civil rights.
Those people deserve to live in peace just as much as you. Stop being the aggressor. It's not fucking hard.
Go educate yourself on how Israel came into being in the first place.
It wasn't through peacefully asking Palestinians to share the land but by three groups, who gleefully wore the title of "terrorists" that bombed & killed their way into terrifying the populace.
It wasn't the Palestinians that planted a bomb in the King David Hotel that killed 96 in 1947. It wasn't Palestinians that carried out atrocities such as throwing babies into ovens in Deir Yassin and Tantura.
Israel was born out of collaboration with colonisers & imperialists, through selling out other Jews who opposed zionism, through a thousand acts of indiscriminate terrorism against the indigenous population and through an apartheid system since.
Bbbbbut what about October 7th?!!!
It's history equivalence is the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising but Israel ain't the oppressed fighting back.
breaking into someone's home and stealing it doesn't make you their neighbor
Nice joke
They can all fuck right off. There is so much I'd like to say but I cannot because I will be accused of inciting violence. Funny how Right wing and zionist incitement is allowed on social media, but when anyone left leaning says anything immediate bans. I'm hoping something of biblical proportions happens in Israel. Maybe it will turn into a self fulfilling prophesy, anyway, these are words, I can't encourage anyone other than any gods out there to rain sulfer and all that. I sympathise with the left wing Jews in Israel, but unfortunately, the genocide continues and this is their governement. Much like Maga now is, like it or not, the face of America, well Genocide is now the face of Israel.
Good. Fuck israel. I hope to see it burn.
The irony is this violence is not from you. It spawned from Israel's own actions. And when will they learn that their actions have consequences
Well not to split hairs, but seeing as they are currently perpetrating Second Holocaust, it would have to be more like Third Holocaust. But the problem with the Israeli comments is that unarmed civilians aren’t very effective at holocausts.
"If you dont fund my genocide I'll definitely be killed, because theres no way I'd stop my ethnic cleansing or give Palestinians their land and homes back."
“If we end apartheid then it’s the end of South Africa!”
“If we don’t exterminate the Jews then it’s the end of Germany!”
We’ve heard this before.
But Trump said there is white genocide in South Africa now so ending the Apartheid was a bad idea!
Not having an arms embargo is allowing the 2nd Holocaust right now.
Fuck you, israel is a state based on genocide of everyone living around. So don't bring back the Holocaust card. It was terrible, but has nothing to do with wiping out whole country of Palestine, so they can implant more religious jewish fanatics instead.